Re: Torture - A lawful good act?

On Jan 5, 12:07 am, veritas <khogan...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Didn't he say, "Love your enemies as they are dying?" I thought sure

No.

that was the quote. Or maybe when God gave Moses the ten commandments

No.

(or Clinton's verison of eight) and then took him to the top of the
mountain and said, "Have your people kill all the Cannanites, steal
all their things, take all their land, and then go back to the ten

A lot of the OT is filled with nation building stuff. Yes, God has
his chosen people do many things he would later tell them were
not correct. Or rather, no longer correct. As Jesus explains in his
bit about divorce, God gave man laws as man was ready for them.
Thus, the rules change over time as we are deemed more and more
capable to understand real Truth.

thing." Was that what he said? I could be wrong about Jesus, but

Clearly.

to someone else. I am speaking of real life.

So am I. I just have a belief that we can change; that we can
rise above our violent emotions to be better people.

If an animal lashes out when it is hurt it is for fear, not for

Assuming they "know" fear. I'd just say they lash out through
instinctual behavior.

revenge. That is human reasoning, not animal. But, then I don't

Humans are animals and quite capable of reacting purely
from emotion/instinct.

You try and BREAK that circle and guess what happens? You get killed
and the circle goes on, because human beings are the most savage
animal ever to inhabit this planet! It is in our brain, and you are
never going to get that out of us. YOU may want to break the circle,

So long as you believe that, you are lost. Come into the light
and see what a better world can look like.

so feel free to let people kill your loved ones. I think I'll pass

So, how do you get from "don't murder anyone" to "let people
be murders"?!

wrote my book, this very argument. Why do we act like this when we
should act as you suggest? There is a reason, as there is a reason

Because people (like you?) believe we *can't* change. That
and there are sufficient numbers who don't *want* to change.
.

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