Re: Vulnerability

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:26:02 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@xxxxxxxxx> scribed
into the ether:

On Oct 15, 3:57 pm, Matt Frisch <matus...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:39:26 -0700, Justisaur <justis...@xxxxxxxxx> scribed
into the ether:

On Oct 14, 8:37 pm, SeaHen <seahen...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It seems that the goal of the current resistance system (as compared
to percentage reduction) is to allow creatures to ignore small amounts
of damage, without modifying large amounts to the point that they
shift the game balance. So why not do the same with vulnerability?
Then, the extra effect of a flaming sword on a cold-based creature
would be clearly noticeable, but that of a fireball wouldn't be
unbalancing.

If a creature has fire vulnerability N, let it mean that the first N
points of fire damage per hit are doubled.

I like the idea. Reverse resistance.

I've also been toying around with staggered invulnerability.

Have Least, Moderate, Strong invulnerability to various effects. In order
to affect something with a power they are invulnerable to, you need to
supercede its rank.

Current skeletons have immunity to cold because of their lack of fleshy
bits. But if things get really cold, it will make the bones brittle enough
to shatter under their own weight. They would get Least cold immunity. An
adult white dragon has a fair bit of magic on his side, plus the aspects of
his breath weapon, and he gets Moderate. An ice elemental scoffs at the
very idea of cold, and has Strong invulnerability.

Spells for level 1-5 inflict Least <element> 6-7 do Moderate <Element> and
8-9 do Strong <Element>.

So a skeleton would not be affected by the ice portion of an ice storm
(would still get flailed to redeath by the force of the chunks of course),
being a level 4 spell. An energy substituted Delayed Blast Iceball at level
7 would be effective on the skeleton, but the dragon would ignore it. Ice
Comet Swarm, the energy substituted level 9 spell, would hurt the dragon,
but no level of cold would ever impede the Elemental.

Possibly throw in a half damage factor for using a level 9 spell against a
creature with moderate immunity.

There's already resistance for that.

But they don't duplicate the effect, and immunities can be too
encompassing. I think it's too good that a freshly hatched red dragon could
be thrown into the sun with no ill effects from the heat. An ancient
wyrm...yes, but not a newborn. I can punch an adult human on the forehead
and do little more than buise my knuckles, where the same blow on an infant
with their very soft skull would easily be fatal.
.

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