Re: Ages everyone?



In article <44fc2327@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, tussock <scrub@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Loren Pechtel wrote:
Lance Berg wrote:

<excuse the piggyback, cheers>

Death is for those who don't make it to the singularity. I don't
intend to be one of that group.
Me too; years ago I heard a statistic (probably wrong) that only half
the people who have ever lived have died. Even if its 90% that have
died, thus far I'm in the 10% who havent, and I'd like to stay that way.

There's 6 billion now. Estimes all lie around 100 billion for all
time, so we're in the latest 6%. Can't imagine why you'd want to live on
forver though, Lance.

I never researched it, but I never bought the notion that more people
live today than have ever lived before. How many generations, on average,
can there be in 400,000 years? How many people, on average, might
there have been in each of those generations? This might be impossible
to estimate, but it would be interesting to see some figures.

There's no reason I can think of why immortality is impossible,

My X chromosome has done near 3 billion years.

so the trick is simply to live long enough that I'm still alive when it
gets developed.

A rough copy of my X chromosome will persist, I guarantee it. Even
a 100km body won't take it out.

<snip>

I'm hoping it never becomes possible to upload a brain onto a storage
device, or to interface with a computer or computerlike device. I just
don't like the implications.

If they just keep doubling every six months it'll be 2500 years.

I'm sure computers will be replaced by whatever comes next long
before they can approximate a human.

There's bound to be a topping out in hw technology at some point,
though. Perhaps that will be gotten around by finding new ways to
make things work than the bases on which our current computers
are designed. Some in the computer industry believe that improvements
and advances in sw will outstrip those in hw eventually. Of course,
that requires that programmers write more efficient code, which is
a tall order, sometimes ;)

Only reason for that would be if the current world order collapses and
we're shoved into some medieval culture, by say radical islam or the
christian fundamentalists or some kid playing Global Thermonuclear War
on the DOD computer mainframe.

Yeah, there are plenty of ways things could go astray.

"Shall we play a game?"

There really is no world order now, but all governments eventually fall.
It's only a matter of time till, for example, the U.S. government will in
some way fail, and be replaced by another system.

Oil's going to be $300 a barrel soon enough, and that's going to
put a crimp in a few people's dreams too. I hope someone near y'all
grows food without too much fertiliser, 'cause this thing about shifting
it thousands of miles before it gets eaten isn't going to last.

Unlikely that oil will ever reach that price. OPEC may still call the
shots, but if things get out of hand, some nations may decide
to use their own oil. The States have more than enough, but
it costs less to refine oil from the Middle East than to refine
our own.

If we're fortunate, the world will get off fossil fuels and oil-based
economy soon...far better for people to be distributed with enough
space for families and/or communities to work their own farms, in
order to survive.

Not to mention the water.

I find Fermi's Paradox very worrysome.

"Where are they?" Simple answer is we're here, have been for a long
time. Hi. Not good enough? Stop assuming intelligent life is a
recognisable concept to pond scum.

Could be that human beings aren't native to this planet. Could be
that they are, and have been experimented with over time by
extraterrestrial beings of one sort or another. Who knows?

Heh. Immortality; as if the last 94% didn't think that. Clowns.

We're all immortal, just not our shells ;)

- E
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