Re: Warlock Character Build, Advice Sought

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 22:47:59 -0400, Shawn Roske
<shawn_roske@xxxxxxxxxxxx> dared speak in front of ME:

>Will Green wrote:
>> Shawn Roske wrote:
>>> Will Green wrote:
>>>> Shawn Roske wrote:
>>>>> This alignment view is more /neutral/ than chaotic neutral. Chaotic
>>>>> neutral would see people as getting what they deserve, they most
>>>>> certainly would knowingly harm an innocent if they had any notion to
>>>>> do so, and loyalty is to themselves over anyone else. A neutral
>>>>> person would also knowingly harm an innocent, they just are unlikely
>>>>> to ever benefit from it. Only the good avoid knowingly harming
>>>>> innocents.
>>>> RTFM.
>>> I stand by my interpretation.
>> Even though it's very, very wrong? Can you cite anything from the SRD
>> or PHB to support your "interpretation?"
>
>The bit about not harming an innocent seems more towards good than
>neutral, so I suggested dropping the chaotic element. Since he needs
>the chaos for the class, perhaps drop the consideration of innocence
>altogether.
>
>The paragraph, beginning "People who are neutral..." bottom of 104p. PH
>depicts a person or group of people who would knowlingly send innocents
>to die if they were not in the in-group.

No it doesn't. It depicts a person or group thereof who won't stop
someone else from doing as you describe.

>Add chaos to neutral with the coresponding rebellion from authority and
>the emphasis on individualism,

And you get someone who's... not going to get involved without a
personal interest either way. (And if his interest leads towards
doing harm to said 'innocent,' then it becomes questionable whether
said person is truly innocent.)

>Harming the innocent does not
>always occur through malice, and most often occurs through not giving a
>damn.

You are confusing "allows harm to come to innocents" with "knowingly
causes harm to innocents."

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