Re: Things I have forgotten

Erimess <erimess@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Tina_Hall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Tina Hall) wrote:
Erimess <erimess@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Tina_Hall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Tina Hall) wrote:

I'm not even sure if Dragons dig emails from the roster all
that often. I usually just do a "reply to email" from my
newsreader, assuming it's not fake. (For the most part, anyone
I'd choose to communicate privately with, I likely already know
their email anyway.)

For private email, this adress is fine. It's online stuff I
don't want to use it for.

Well, as Poly said, the roster doesn't show your mail unless
someone is logged in. i.e. it would be only logged-in Dragons
who could see it. Otherwise everyone shows up as name@xxxxxxxxx

Shows up where?

I do wonder about something... how your email is or is not
showing up at online newsgroup readers. Let me check a couple of
things.

Oh, I guess in Usenet posts, my adress shows up everywhere. I just
don't want to put it anywhere online where some 'service' might send
me emails. I think we've cleared that UDIC doesn't do that.

But, for example, for Facebook (to look at the pictures of my family
in the UK[*]), I wouldn't use this adress. And I'd never give it to
establish a new adress online (like some email adress things want
you to give an alternate one?).

I would, on the other hand, use it for a mailing list, for example.

[*] They only just found me last October or something (an email from
my Dad: Are you so-and-so, born there-and-there :) ), and found me
in google, the Usenet archives at that. We've lost contact ages ago,
so there's much need to update. :) I wouldn't go on Facebook without
that.

(No wonder I never get to bed before 5 a.m.! It's pusihing that
now and I'm not supposed to be doing this. LOL.)

I went to bed just before 9am, and got up at around half seven (pm).

Very happy about that, too. I really want to push my cycle so I get
up late, and go to sleep some time in the afternoon.

OK, it's showing as "tina_h...". in google groups. This is a
change since I've been there last. One has to click on the "..."
after the h and type in those goofy looking letters to get to the
full thing. i.e. so the spambots don't get it. However, that
means any human can find it.

Yeah, my Dad did. :)

But personally, I don't think I'd like the idea of just anyone
being able to get my address. And I don't know what else may be
out there where these posts are showing up, that aren't
protecting people's addresses. I have an address I use only for
the groups and I get no spam there, so it doesn't seem to be an
issue. Still, you might want to use something else for the
newsgroups just in case. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I've been using the adress I'm given for Usenet at whichever gateway
for years and years. (Since around 1999, anyway.) I get next to no
spam (my node's got very good filters). Of course, when I say
something... eh... well, the less nice things I might say sometimes,
it's out there forever. But I know that, and it's ok.

The problem with giving my adress to some service online is really
just not getting some automatic html junk from them. It used to be
deleted straight away, but since my family have my adress... Let's
just say for them I make an exception from my rule to killfile all
top posters and html posters, because they're family. :) (I doubt
they'll ever learn what a proper email looks like, my Dad even
complained about it.)

And I don't want to register anywhere with my real name. (Call it a
quirk.)

I don't know what that thing is you're using to get this, but
I'm using a newsreader, downloading from a news server, and my
email isn't even showing up anywhere online. (That's partly
the settings I'm using.)

I'm on Fidonet, since 1992, using XP, a point program for
Fidonet. (Well, originally mausnet or something.) And ever since
I had the opportunity to have a node (uplink) connected to or
maintaining a gateway, I use the same way to get Usenet.

Yes, I saw that before, but I have no clue what Fidonet is or how
it works. So that doesn't mean anything to me.

A network with a star shaped hierarchy, where the outer edge Points
call some center Node (I use the capitalized words deliberately),
and the Nodes again call some Hub or Host, and the latter call each
other, to spread emails and posts around. Via modem, computer-to-
individual-computer calls (nothing permanent, or at least rarely
permanent connections).

Way back when the Earth was still flat, there were people who spent
thousands on phone bills to cross the Atlantic, for this hobby. (It
used to be that you had to pay a small amount per month, too, but
now I guess people just want to keep it alife. And also, today, you
can do Fido-over-IP or something; use Internet to get the same.)

I'm a Point, and whenever I feel like it, I call my Node (normal
landline phone number), send off the posts and emails I've written,
get new posts and emails. The connection is ended and the new stuff
filtered and sorted into the database.

My Node has a gateway, connecting Fidonet to Usenet, converting my
public mails to Usenet post, and Fidonet private mails to the emails
you know, and the other way round. (Different teminology
deliberate.)

Very convenient. Because I don't have to bother with internet for
it. :) (The software's been upgraded, mind, so I could use it with a
proper news server - I tried that out of curiosity once - but that's
just awkward.)

Even with that, there's nothing more convenient than this. (I've
had a look at actual newsreaders, and newsservers. Too awkward.)

Anything on the internet is a balance between safe and what is
convenient to you and what you want to do. But your email *is*
showing up places where anyone can get it. Doesn't necessarily
mean a spambot can get it. But I only checked google and
newsguy.

Spam's not a worry. :)

And with this, even if for some reason (I've just seen your post on
that) my or someone's email is flagged as spam, there's a real guy I
can email and ask, who'll then sort it out.

The newsgroup and the online roster are two entirely unrelated
things. You're already posting to the newsgroup and nothing
there will change from what you're doing now.

So I figured. For the login thing and registering with... why do
you call it roster anyway? But for that I'd have to go online.
I'll have a look next time I do, but I don't really like to go
online.

It's called a roster because it's a roster. :-) Maybe that's an
English word you don't know, dunno.

Yeah. :) Sounds like something a chicken would sit on. <g>

(I did look it up in the dictionary now.)

I'm terrible with languages. I'd have forgotten my English completly
if I hadn't started reading English books.

A roster is a list of something, usually people. So it's a list
of the Dragon membership. It contains the person's Dragon name,
their real name (except for occasional weirdos like me who won't
list it),

Ooh, I like that.

and your email address. Anyone can view it, but you can't see
the *real* addresses unless you're logged in. So Dragons will
see it. But I wouldn't worry about it cause the list is
EXTREMELY long and someone would have to know your Dragon name
and be specifically looking for you. When you get online next,
take a peak and you'll see what I mean. So the address you're
using here should be fine.

Will do. Thanks for the explanation.

But again, that's not related to the newsgroup. And for that,
personally, I'd want a different address. But that's me.

I have no choice in what adress I use for Usenet, so I accept it.

--
"I'm a fish." Kevra announced. - (Lanar) "How did that happen?"
"Only fish can breathe under water." - "Oh, then I was a fish, too."
"'Was'?" Gorash asked. - "Ishuun cast me out for freezing his toes off."
-- Seasons & Elements I: Controlled by Magic
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