Re: Paul Truong Has Filed For Bankruptcy -- Response for Mr. Kane
- From: Mike Murray <mikemurray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:43:42 -0700
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:12:21 -0700 (PDT), Rob <robmtchl@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Reverend, regarding the topic of Paul,Susan Phil or Sam Sloan, there
is little rational or civil discussions based on actual concerns. They
are usually personality driven contrivances.
Wrong. There have been many highly rational, level-headed posts. The
personality driven contrivances, as you call them, have been mostly
Phil's hysterical diversions.
Here we have something. A claim of proof of obvious wrong doing. But
keep in mind this:
1. A court has to determine that he made the posts.
2. A court has to decide that the making of the posts was an actual
crime under statute.
3. There has to be proof that an injury was caused by the said
actions.
4. The burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt.
Wrong on several counts. First, there are managerial issues and civil
issues -- criminality is not the only game in town. Second, in civil
cases, the burden of proof is preponderance of evidence, not
reasonable doubt. This has been pointed out to you many times. Third,
decisions regarding employment and fitness to serve do not necessarily
imply criminal or civil liability, are not necessarily tied to injury,
and don't require a court finding.
RGC is not a court . The kangaroo court of chess revenge is not a
legitimate place to post these claims.
If a news group devoted to chess politics is not the appropriate place
to discuss the behavior of a chess politician, what is? Nobody other
than you and Phil makes the ridiculous claim that this is a "court",
or that anybody thinks punishment will be meted out in rgcp.
Not quite honest. You have, with other posters, acted as judge,jury
and hangman.
Discussing documents and evidence is not acting as judge, jury and
hangman. Newscasters, columnists, bloggers, etc., do it all the time.
And judge not lest ye be judged .
Doesn't work very well for in the business and political arena, do
it? Do ya think that line would have worked at Nuremberg (we've gone
quite a while without invoking Godwin, after all) ?
.
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