Re: Hastings




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"David Kane" <davidekane@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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A real world illustration of why it is wrong to rate draws.

While I understand you general reservations on draws relating to Elo - I
would be a bit miffed if, in another example, I had struggled against a much
higher rated opponent, drew, but failed to achieve any rating benefit from
it.

You would be miffed only because of your expectations.

Not at all. If I should draw with a player 200 points above me, shall I not
enjoy the benefit of it -mathematically speaking- related to my rating?


That's exactly the point. You are trained to expect to "benefit" from the draw
by being given a higher rating. If draws weren't rated then you would have
no such expectation. You would still benefit from the knowledge that
you played well. I'd guess most people can remember the game in which
they drew their highest rated opponent, but I'd guess very few remember
(or care) how many rating points it was worth.


I do not understand your objection to rating draws, which seem to be not
mathematical at all, [is this merely my poor understanding of your schema?]
and counter-intuitive to the entire idea of achieving a rating by actual play
against others.


Because not all draws are play. The example you quoted being a
perfect example. Having ratings and titles depend on those shams
is a mockery.




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