Re: Does Pocket Fritz 2 Run on Windows Mobile?

Alain wrote:
There's no other company like Microsoft for compatibility issues! They
stink as far as I am concerned.

But I have seen that issue with PF2 asking to select a language and
none being available on my iPAQ (Windoze Mobile 2003).


I think that you are missing the target : PF problems are coming from Chessbase and not from Microsoft. Other chess programs for PPC don't have the same problems.

Just because other chess programs don't have the issues does not help in proving where the problem is. There can be a 1001 reasons why an application might misbehave on a new platform. It could for example be

1) The result of the developer making assumptions which are not true. (Fault of developer)

2) A change in the behavior of an operating system function. (Fault of the the operating system). Such changes can be very obscure.

I recall an issue on Sun's Solaris with Matlab. Sun said it was an enhancement to the operating system, Mathworks (developer of Matlab) said it was a bug in Solaris.

Without access to the source code of at least the application it is going to be next to impossible to find the root cause of the problem.

But reinstallation seems to fix quite a few problems on Windows systems. I think problems occur especially when you have installed several bits of software which either through design (copy protection) or otherwise don't fully uninstall.

However, I must admit I am less than impressed with the support from Chessbase on PF2. My emails to them as well as posts on the newsgroup about the fact it no longer works with their online database have not resulted in any improvements to the situation. Someone said you need to buy an update since it only works for one year. But there is nothing I can see to suggest that is so. There is no way to enter any registration code. It just reports a game is not found in the database - even if you make a single move of e4.

Given the information that one can get from the database is available on the web for free to any operating system

http://www.chesslive.de/

I'm puzzled why it no longer works with one of their products.

I can't recall
how I got around it, but it was probably the usual:

1) Format the disk - OK non-volatile memory.
2) Reinstall the OS.
3) Cross fingers
4) Reinstall application software.


There is no "OS reinstallation" under WM.... Of course, you can reflash your rom but it is completely useless. An Hardreset is enough to go back to factory state (and is anyway almost never needed).

Sorry, that is what I meant - hard reset. This was done a little toung-in-cheek.

CE board works fine on my iPAQ. You might find recompiling for your
later OS will work. Since the source code is open, either the
developer, you or someone else could do it. There's a Pocket PC
*developer* newsgroup. Try asking if ssomeone could recompile for your
later OS. For someone with the development tools set up, I doubt it
would take then 5 minutes.


CEBoard is not open source ; CEBoard's versions of open sources engines such as fruit and toga respect their licence and are therefore published with the sources, but CEBoard's core is not.

I thought CE board was open-source, but I see you are right. There is a very similar program that is definitely open-source for windows and UNIX

http://scid.sourceforge.net/

but alas not Pocket PC. But it used Tcl, a port of which does exist for Pocket PC. Anyway, I imagine it would still be hard work to port it.

As far as I know, the display problem mentionned above only appears on the Dell X51v.

Even that does not prove where the fault lies. It might be Dell's fault, or it could be the application making an assumption that is true for most PDAs but not for the Dell. It could be a bug in the compiler too, although that is less likely.

BTW, Thinkerboard

http://www.geocities.com/thechessthinker/download.htm

does allow online play with an iPAQ to ICC. The application is only alpha, so is not polished, but it is usable, which is more than can be said for the Intellichess I downloaded and tried. That is such an alwful program I was quick to "delete" it. (By "delete" I mean hard reset and reinstall the system from a recent image. Otherwise you know it will leave bits left around your PocketPC).

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