Re: Assign the blame: two hands at teams

On Mar 5, 11:50 am, Tim DeLaney <delaney.timo...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 5, 2:13 pm, agump...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:



On Mar 5, 11:15 am, "Co" <JF.Wier...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Mar 5, 4:18 am, Henry Lockwood <henry.lockw...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear all

We had a rather unsuccessful evening last night. Of our bad boards,
we know what went wrong on most of them but there are two where I'm
not so sure.

Board 9, dealer N, EW vul.

S T98754
H 764
D Q7
C A8
S Q S AJ6
H AJT8    H Q3
D AK854     D 632
C 762   C KQT53
S K32
H K952
D JT9
C J94

Table 1:
2S - P - 3S - P
P P

Table 2:
2S - P - 3S - X
P 3NT end

3NT rattles home, and undoubled undertricks do not compensate. Blame?

East is blameless. At table 2 West took a more aggressive view and was
rewarded.Double was obviously risky, but I think it was the better
action. So blame goes to West.

Board 21, N deals, NS vul.
S QJ72
H JT9
D T92
C JT9
S K84       S T5
H A7       H K543
D KJ64       D A87
C 7632        C A854
S A963
H Q862
D Q53
C KQ

Table 1:
P - P -   1NT - P
P - X - P - 2D
end

Table 2:
P - P - 1NT - end

In both cases 1NT is 12-14; X shows a maximum pass (which in this case
is 10-11 balanced).

I don't care for East's balancing double--it seems too risky to me.
West had a difficult decision and I don't blame him for pulling. It's
not hard to rearrange the North-South cards such that N-S can make an
overtrick in 1NTX. West was unlucky that he gave up +500 when he
pulled. Sitting for the double makes sense if you need a swing, but
otherwise it's a risky choice.

IMO, the worst decision was South's choice to open 1NT (although I
realize that is the system bid).
1. South has a terrible hand, that should refuse any invitations.
2. he his vulnerable against not, so 1NT will be expensive when it is
wrong.
3. his partner is a passed hand so game chances are non-existent.
4. he is 4-4 in the majors so 1NT may cause him to miss a major suit
partial.

In short, South risks going for a number and risks missing a superior
major fit with little possible gain because the limit of the hand for
his side is almost certain to be a partscore. A non-systemic 1D
followed by a pass of responder's 1M bid is a safer way to enter the
auction.

Andrew

I see no reason why West would bid anything but pass

now you see a difficult decission for West
that can only be so , I think
if West has any reason to believe
that 2D would be a better place to be in then 1NTX
what reason could there be ?
or do I misunderstand your posting here ?

You don't misunderstand me. Facing a passed hand, it is far from
certain that the West hand will beat 1NT. IMO, the posters who think
pass is automatic are probably being over influenced by the actual
layout. I'd estimate that -180 is at likely as +200. Now perhaps its
better to take that risk, since 2D might also catch a misfit and go
down, but to call this an "automatic pass" (which to my mind suggests
you think 1NT is a big favorite to fail) is a mistake.

Here is a layout where I moved a couple of cards around between North
and South to illustrate how little it would take to make 1NT cold.

             S QJ72
             H T96
             D QT92
             C JT
    S K84                S T5
    H A7                 H K543
    D KJ64               D A87
    C 7632               C A854
             S A963
             H QJ82
             D 53
             C KQ9

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While I agree with your argument in general, in the example deal you
give E-W gets 7 tricks: 1 spade, 2 Hearts, 2 Diamonds, 2 Clubs.

Tim

Thanks for correcting my error (dammit!). I am too lazy to rearrange
the hand further, but if the SA is traded for the SQJ and CJ, it's
looking pretty tough to beat 1NTX.



Andrew

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