Re: Carding question
- From: Charles Brenner <cbrenner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
On Mar 23, 4:09 am, rhm <r...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 23, 6:01 am, Charles Brenner <cbren...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 22, 9:31 pm, ewleong...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Mar 20, 6:44 pm, henrysun...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
You hold, at IMPS:
J9xx
xx
xxx
AJxx
and hear this bidding:
Partner RhO You LHO
1c 1s p 2s
x 4s all pass
You choose to lead your highest heart and see this dummy
Kxx
KTxxxx
xxx
x
Trick 1: High heart, small, queen, jack
Trick 2: KD, small, ??
Since you have a sure trump trick, you'd like to have partner shift to
a club at trick 3. Is there any obvious way to do this?
Henrysun909
I would play my middle diamond.
If I play my lowest discouraging diamond partner is certainly going to
play me for a stiff heart.
Yes, another heart is what we want least. Granting a discouraging
diamond would encourage a heart, it follows that declarer, who wants a
heart, has just played a (small) discouraging diamond.
If I play my highest encouraging diamond partner is certainly going to
continue diamonds.
Why certain? If a low diamond calls for hearts, then a high diamond
merely means not hearts. If it's critical whether to play a diamond or
a club partner will probably get it right, though no guarantee.
However, if I play my middle diamond partner might work out I might
have been able to play a more encouraging diamond holding the diamond
ace.
Possibly.
Consequently, partner might be able to work it out from the spots
played to shift to a club.
"Consequently"? Doesn't follow.
The reality is that partner might be able to see that middle isn't
high, OR might be able to see that middle isn't low. I don't see how
partner will possibly be able to see both things.
I would simply play a large diamond to put partner off of hearts.
Charles
I do not get this. Why is the diamond suit suddenly a substitute for
hearts, when it could be crucial to know whether you want a diamond
continuation?
I got your earlier arguments (substantially) and was impressed. That's
why I wrote "granting", meaning "assuming for the sake of argument."
With regard to the heart situation:
It is odds on from the bidding that the jack of hearts is a true card.
Otherwise partner has not raised clubs with a singleton in hearts and
declarer is much mre likely to jump to game with a singleton than a
doubleton in hearts.
In view of the fact that my actual bidding was not good (preferably 5C
or at least double over 4S seems obvious), I'm not very much moved by
your (anyway merely probabilistic) argument here based on partner
trusting my bidding.
Would declarer duck diamonds with a doubleton heart after false
carding the jack? No way.
Even then it is unlikely that a heart ruff would gain a trick
weakening partners trumps
These are good arguments too but they are irrelevant at the table.
When it's my turn to play at trick 2, I'm going to play in tempo. Even
if I were a much better player than I am, I don't have time to work
out whether partner can work out ... The one thing I know is that a
heart continuation is a disaster. I'm glad that if you're my partner
you won't make that mistake regardless of my signal. It doesn't follow
though that the diamond signal doesn't pertain to hearts, does it?
Charles
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