Re: 3cd Major Openings


"MJ" <bigboss44@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"KWSchneider" <schneider.kurt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I'll acknowledge that this is an overt attempt to get around the ACBL
GCC regs but hear me out...

From the ACBL website:

"Laws of Duplicate Contract Bridge - American Edition

As Promulgated in the Western Hemisphere by the AMERICAN CONTRACT
BRIDGE LEAGUE - Effective May 27, 1997 Published and distributed by
the American Contract Bridge League.

Definitions - Convention

1. A call that, by partnership agreement, conveys a meaning other
than willingness to play in the denomination named (or in the last
denomination named), or high-card strength or length (three cards or
more) there. However, an agreement as to overall strength does not
make a call a convention."

According to the GCC [General Convention Chart - which regulates
CONVENTIONS], a 3crd minor or 4cd major is considered natural.
However, according to the definition of convention above - a 3crd
major suit opening is NOTconventional.

SO - I see no problem playing a "super" canape system where:

1C - shows 4+ hearts [allowed per GCC - OPENING BIDS 1.]
1D - shows 4+ spades [allowed per GCC - OPENING BIDS 1.]
1M - shows 3M [allowed per DEFINITIONS]
1N - strong 16+ [allowed per GCC - OPENING BIDS 2.]
2m - long minors [natural]

The "logic" in this is that:
a) 1M will effectively pre-empt the opps major suit bidding [we would
bid 1S with 0-3h3s]
b) We have "legal" transfer sequences available for the majors after
1m openings - since a 1M response on 3+M is not conventional as well
c) Makes the defined hand dummy

I'm not saying that this is a good system concept for IMPS but rather
for MPs. For you system junkies out there - any comments?

Yes, what you are trying to to is patently prohibited. GCC was implemented
to STOP just what you are trying to do. The catch-all clause:

ALLOWED ? ? Unless specifically allowed, methods are disallowed ? ?

It's hard to come up with a greater insult to the concept of Rule of Law.

1. An opening suit bid or response is considered natural if in a minor it
shows
three or more cards in that suit and in a major it shows four or more
cards
in that suit. A notrump opening or overcall is natural if not unbalanced
(generally, no singleton or void and only one or two doubletons).

The ACBL can write what it likes, but the laws of the game are a higher
authority.

Tiggrr


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