Re: Games and Playing Styles

Chris Malme wrote:
: His comment - that that just because a game *wasn't* a war game
: didn't mean it was a social game - is equivalent to "Not being 'A'
: does not imply 'B'". Your interpretaction if his post was saying
"'A'
: implies 'B'", which was neither what he said, nor could it be
implied
: from that.

Thanks Chris for the response. This condescending response from
George about A and B was completely unhelpful because it failed to
address my lack of understaning.

The section of his writing that confused me was the following:

:::: In any event, the unusual and defining
:::: characteristics which you consistently bring up in an
:::: attempt to justify this description of German games are
:::: the unusual and defining characteristics of simulationist
:::: wargames.

Being part of the same paragraph refering to length of play and lack
of a large table not being evidence of a game being social. I read
this second part of the paragraph in the context of our previous
discussion (i.e. new paragraph new subject, same paragraph same
subject).

So on the one hand (multiple negatives reversed for clarity) we have:
games that play on a fairly small table and in less than 30 hours are
not necessarily intended to be social.

Then in the second section we have: the unusual and defining
characteristics I bring up to justify my description of german games
are the same characteristics simulationist wargames are defined by.

Now this totally confuses me because I never argued that playing times
of less than 30 hours is a defining characteristic of Euro games. If
he'd said under 2 hours that would have been more accurate.

I also can't see how these defining characteristics are the same for
Euros and simulationist wargames. So I haven't the faintest idea what
the point is. My use of the 30 hour wargame example was to address
the point that somehow Euros and simulationist war games share the
same defining characteristics. I grant you that this may have made my
argument somewhat unclear too but it did seem a good way to make the
point.

Am I still somehow misreading what was being said? I asked George
this very question in another part of the thread and he has failed to
make a response as yet ...

Ivan.


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