Re: Obama admin is actively involved in this coverup
- From: "gtech1" <duanepritchett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:51:41 -0700
What you say might be correct. But it also might not be. How do you
KNOW? I'm sure I can spend 5 minutes and find a couple of links to
stories that say the enhanced techniques did lead to actionable
intelligence.
On May 12 2009 1:11 AM, risky biz wrote:
The most damning opinion, however, was offered by FBI director Robert
Mueller:
I ask Mueller: So far as he is aware, have any attacks on America been
disrupted thanks to intelligence obtained through what the administration
still calls ?enhanced techniques?? ?I?m really reluctant to answer that,?
Mueller says. He pauses, looks at an aide, and then says quietly,
declining to elaborate: ?I don?t believe that has been the case.?
This was damaging enough, but three weeks ago, when the Senate report was
published, it emerged that an Army psychiatrist had told the committee
that ?a large part of the time we were focused on trying to establish a
link between al-Qaeda and Iraq,? but that ?we were not successful in
establishing a link,? and that, as a result, ?there was more and more
pressure to resort to measures that might produce more immediate results.?
Following on from this revelation, astute observers recalled reports about
the interrogations of two specific prisoners ? Abu Zubayah and Ibn
al-Shaykh al-Libi ? which had gained notoriety not because they had
secured information that had saved ?perhaps hundreds of thousands? of U.S.
lives, but because they had resulted in false allegations about
connections between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein that were used to justify
the invasion of Iraq, and that actually led to the loss of over 4,000 US
lives, and the deaths of countless thousands of Iraqis.
Al-Libi withdrew his confession in February 2004, when he was returned to
CIA custody, and as Newsweek reported in 2007, the circumstances of his
?confession? could hardly have been less conducive to the discovery of the
truth. As the magazine explained, he told his debriefers that ?he
initially told his interrogators that he ?knew nothing? about ties between
Baghdad and Osama bin Laden and he ?had difficulty even coming up with a
story? about a relationship between the two.? However, ?his answers
displeased his interrogators,? who then subjected him to a mock burial,
imprisoning him for 17 hours in ?a box less than 20 inches high.? When the
box was opened, al-Libi ?said he was given one final opportunity to ?tell
the truth.? He was knocked to the floor and ?punched for 15 minutes.? It
was only then that, al-Libi said, he made up the story about Iraqi weapons
training.?
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