Re: is perpetual motion possible ?

Old Wolf wrote:
On Jul 9, 5:12 am, "Kyle T. Jones" <KBf...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rob wrote:
Not at all. You make some hidden assumptions here, Rob. For one, you
assume that the sphere completely blocks/absorbs all the repulsive
energy coming from the vacuum outside that sphere.

You can say "not at all" a million times, Rob. The truth is that the
math is the same in either case. If you make the walls of the sphere
massive enough to block the "repulsive" force completely, resulting in
"the masses will be pushed apart in your model", you've made them
massive enough so "the masses will be pushed apart" in your model as
well (because you've made them massive enough that they are now
"attracting" in your model).

You are both making horrid arguments. Firstly, this sphere
will have a mass which will exert a gravitational influence on
the masses inside it. Secondly, the sphere obviously admits
forces external to it, because mass does not 'block' gravity!
(KTJ's 'vacuum force' would permeate mass in exactly the
same way that conventional gravity does).

KTJ's seems to me to be correct but pointless; by Occam's
razor , it is much easier to work on the assumption that
mass causes depressions in spacetime, rather than lack
of mass causing corresponding rises in spacetime!


Yeah, hey, I never claimed it was ground breaking! Just a roundabout way of describing the same thing that's usually described.

Cheers.
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