Re: McCain campaign: finally a sensible statement

On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:06:07 GMT, "Dutch" <no@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Thu, 15 May 2008 19:46:37 GMT, "Dutch" <no@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:15:02 GMT, "Dutch" <no@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:08:03 GMT, "Dutch" <no@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Indian is out, Native or Aboriginal is the preferred terminology.

Maybe for white people who have a need to feel politically correct,
but not for the American Indians themselves.


I've been corrected by one.

http://indiancenter2.org/about_us.html

Notice that their own organization refers to themselves as "Indians".


I suppose these things vary by region. I live right next to The Native
Education Centre here and I had "No Indian Centre Parking" on a sign and
I
was told firmly by one of the administrators that was an insulting term
because of the long history of bad blood with "The Department of Indian
Affairs". Its just a matter of avoiding language that makes people feel
uncomfortable.

The Army of Politically Correct Speech marches on.

While I dislike most euphemisms I am not in complete agreement with the
usual glib disdain for "political correctness", except when it is out of
control as it sometimes seems to be. Language is frequently used to
perpetuate oppressive prejudices like racism or sexism, and when such uses
come to light the right thing to do is to avoid them. Language should be
used to communicate with and support others, not put them down or
discriminate against them.

BTW
The language that you use makes me feel uncomfortable.
Now aren't you ashamed of yourself?

I don't recall referring to you in any particular way that could be
considered offensive. Are you a ***? a ***? a wop? a ***? a cripple?
a
chick? a raghead?

No, you didn't call me any of those names.

If I did use such terminology in ignorance I wouldn't be ashamed, I would
simply learn to do better. Tell me the offensive language I used.


You called me the worst name you could think of.
A word that is the worst possible sin in your World.

You called me a racist.

Could you provide a quote in context? I don't recall doing that. I did say
that racist attitudes are ingrained in the collective American consciousness
and language, which means that virtually everyone is subject to them who has
not consciously confronted and extinguished them. That's not a pejorative,
it's simply reality, it applies to me as well, Canadians have their own
legacy of racism. America is not that far removed from the "back of the bus"
days. If you can't see this then you're in denial.


Ya gotta luv that whole Denial routine.
If someone says they have a problem, then it's welcome to the group,
and we'll help you deal with it.
If someone refuses to agree that they have a problem, why then it's
automatic proof that they do indeed have a problem.

The ultimate Catch 22.
(A reference to the classic book by Joseph Heller.)

If you haven't read the book, you should.

Now are you ashamed of yourself?

The people who need to get busy are those who have refused to confront the
racist (and sexist etc..) stereotypes in their own attitudes.
.

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