Re: getting the most out of big hands

On Apr 25 2008 12:44 PM, Andyfothershops wrote:

I think I am not making as much money as I could from my bigger hands. I am
always scared there are monsters under the bed and reckon after reading some
posts on here that I am betting these hands too big hence not extracting the
most from them.

I'm sure I sound like a broken record to a few people who I've been sort
of coaching (lord help them), but the real key to winning poker is to play
your opponents' hands. Too many players get focused on the fact that they
have a "big" hand and need to get paid off, but in reality if their
opponent doesn't have anything to pay them off with, they aren't winning
anything. Don't feel like as soon as you flop a big hand you're owned
some sort of big pot or anything.

The next step in this is if you can figure out what your opponents have,
it doesn't much matter what your actual cards are.

I always feel I have to give drawing hands half the odds or less than they
need or I am going to get sucked out on. It has got recently so I have been
doing things like betting 1.5 x pot on a flopped set to bet out the flush
draw.

This doesn't make much sense. If you think your opponent is on a flush
draw you want to bet the most that they will call while giving them
improper odds, but you want them to call. If you think you'll get called
by any flush draw no matter what the bet is, just move in on them. But if
you feel they'll only call smaller bets, make their price enough so that
the odds are incorrect. But the key is, you don't want to bet out a worse
hand, you want them to call.

Of course the other thing is, if you are the type of player who can't fold
and end up paying the draw off anyway, there are other problems in your
game that need fixing other than bet sizes.

Can anyone recommend some reading on this.

I'm not familiar with reading that directly relates to this, but I thought
Phil Gordon's Little Green Book, while not very well organized in places,
did a good job at getting you to think about scenarios differently than
you might have before reading the book.

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Morphy
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