Re: NLHE hand for discussion

On Mar 22 2008 2:21 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:52:25 -0800, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5905@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

6 handed online table, $1/$2. Stacks are all in the $250-$300 range.

I'm generally suspicious of tables like this unless I've seen them develop.
Why are they like this? Is it just a bunch of rocks playing each other
and occasionally busting some idiot who shows up?

UTG raises to $6, cutoff calls, we call on the button with Ac 6c with
$300. No real reads at this point. Blinds fold.

I'd want some reads before even sitting down, even if only that one
guy is a real idiot. I don't like tables where everyone is over the max
initial buyin. It raises questions in my mind of what exactly I'm getting
into.

Flop is 9c 7d 3c. UTG bets $15, cutoff calls, and it's on me. Do you
call here or raise?

Obviously raising here in limit is worth a shot. I wouldn't bother
raising without reads here. The caller probably has something, and
probably calls, whatever the preflop raiser does when it comes back
to him. I don't think the odds of a free card are very good, either.

Let's say we call, since the price is right and there's another player in
between me and UTG.

Seems worth it to me.

Turn is the 2d. UTG bets $25 and the cutof calls, and again on me. Do
you call here, raise, fold?

Let's say we call the turn as well, for the same reasons.

Seems fine to me.

River is the 2c. UTG checks, cutoff bets $110 and it's on us. Now what?

The cutoff has a betting pattern very similar to slowplaying a set and
hitting a boat. But he also has a betting pattern very similar to a guy
who just noticed the guy who's been betting all along suddenly shut
down. Or a guy who hit a baby flush.

UTG has been betting poorly, whatever he has.

What we do depends on what the stack size of the cutoff is. If he's
nearly all in, seems worth it to shove for the rest of his stack if it's
one more normal sized bet. If he has enough that he only calls with his best
hands, and not goofy *** like trip 2s and baby flushes, then I just call.
I'm
not expecting any action out of UTG at this point, who may be on
ir/overcards.

With $250-$300 in the range of possible stacks, it seems like a call is
probably
the right play. I can't see how jamming could be faulted much, though.
Maybe I flip a coin.

I think calling is the absolute best play here. You're gonna stack off
UTG's overpair a lot of times in this spot by just calling, as well as
saving yourself a bit if someone did fill up on the river.

Folding is not an option at all.

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