Re: Last global warming post - ever.



On Wed, 21 Nov 07 15:15:12 GMT, ruylopez <43087387@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



On Nov 21 2007 9:59 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:




On Nov 21 2007 8:51 AM, Olemite wrote:


BTW, if you disagree, please don't waste your time responding to me. Do
some thing useful. Sell your car, buy a bicycle,

This could be bad advice. There was a study done a few months ago
regarding the use of bicycles or walking vs driving a car. It was
found that the person using their own energy to get to where they were
going actually consumed more food. All of the CO2 emissions used in
making the extra food was actually higher than the CO2 emissions used
to drive to where they were going.

All of these pending disasters like bird flu, GW, etc are all a result
of the world's biggest problem: Overpopulation.

Ole

Ole do you have a link to this article? My wife and i are having a debate on
if
she should ride her bike to work all winter or we should buy a new car. This
would be a fun article to show her.


I would not doubt this at all.  Getting from A to B requires energy, whether you
are in a train or a car or walking.  Your computer and toaster require energy,
not just your car.  And so do you.  Energy is frequently transformed but it has
to be coming from somewhere. 

Of course ultimately nearly all of the energy on Earth comes from the Sun.  But,
much of it has been stored and we are using whatever we can find.  But if you
are burning more calories, you are using up more food, which was produced by
this economy largely with fossil fuel energy.  If you are charging your sweet
new electric car in your garage overnight, you are consuming electricity that
was likely produced by burning hydrocarbons.  Not to mention that you are
exhaling CO2.


Using electrical energy from nuclear power plants does seem to
overcome that little problem.

The big advantage there is that it utilizes the electric grid that we
already have.

All those electric cars would be charged overnight, when the demand
for electrical energy drops drastically.

No big investments in expanding the electrical grid would be required,
only maintenance of the existing grid.

I do agree that the energy we are presently using does indeed come
from the sun.

But where does the energy gained from nuclear power plants come from?

I do not know how to figger that one.

Any ideas?


It's awfully difficult to get around, isn't it?  I get a kick out of the "End
CO2" bumper stickers I have seen around Ann Arbor.  WTF, are you going to stop
breathing?


They should be thankful for the hunters that go out into the woods
looking for CO2 spewing animals to shoot and eat.

But Noooo.
There's just no gratitude in this world.
.



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