Re: How many outs is a monte carlo board worth?



David Nicoson wrote:
On Oct 31, 4:53 pm, johnny_t <nobod...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
But there are those times, and in the last 3 sessions it seemed to
come up twice, where it seemed like it did matter, and I didn't want to
spend a bunch of time at the table working it out.

If you have 15 outs, we're just a 2:1 dog to improve on the river. In
a limit game, we're calling this all day, even if we suspect that some
of our outs are dirty. Even in a NL game, it's unusual for our
villains to overbet the pot (giving us worse than 2:1) on the turn.



Yeah, all day long calls are not in question. The question is if you suspect that you only have half of your straight outs, or you think your straight is taken. Or most your flush draws are taken, but you think you have your straight draws....

All day long is easy. Drawing nearly dead is easy. There is a always a point there in the center. That is what came up. Where *is* that edge, and does the monte carlo board, change that edge, and by how much.

Implied odds are often lessened in this case, as *your* hand generally becomes well enough defined that it is difficult to generate any significant implied odds.
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