Re: Global warming

"ruylopez"

I have no idea what you are talking about when you say "totalitarian
agriculture."


It's DDT. It's agriculture, which hasn't been around for that long, in
terms of
the history of humans on earth. I guess history is a bad word there
because
history actually starts with agriculture, but prehistoric man was around
long
before. It's totalitarian because it excercises it's will over all the
other
species on Earth. The totalitarian agriculturist decides what species can
live
and what species cannot. The ones we eat live, along with what they eat.
The
ones that would compete with us must die. I borrow the term, but there is
probably a better one available.


When we stopped killing the mosquitoes that carry malaria with DDT, malaria
killed millions, maybe hundreds of millions, of humans that need not have
died. Seems like a bad choice to me.


How do you know what I "need?" What gives you the right to say what
someone
else should consume? Who do you think should tell you what you should do
for a living and how you should spend your earnings? How do you settle
the
dispute when you want me to help you with your ideas and I want you to
support my ideas?

Ack. I didn't mean anything like this at all. I meant something more
basic,
food surpluses. Creating more food than is necessary is what we got out of
totalitarian agriculture. The product is population growth, cultural
growth,
land ownership - eventually science and technology, government, etc. I
don't
have the right to say what anyone "needs", I meant it in a biological
sense:
more than is needed to survive this year. Insolation against the whims of
nature.


This makes no sense to me.


I didn't want to digress to this with you again, for some reason it never
gets
anywhere. I can't seem to make you understand me and I don't know why. I'm
not
supposing to tell anyone what they need in the ways you described. People
will
do whatever they are going to do, and damned if I know what they "should"
be
doing. But whenever I analyze where this has brought us as a global
culture I
see a bleak outlook. Not as bleak as Lord Turkey Cough however, and
probably
not even as bleak as Yooper. It's comforting to know others are even more
freaked out than me.


Tell me the "outlook." We all starve because we make fuel out of the corn?


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