Re: Average Win/Loss
- From: John_Brian_K <John_Brian_Kent_1677@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:13:32 -0700
I guess it will be impossible to get any real constructive critism
because of the way I keep track of my records.
That's the most constructive criticism you can get. If you're going to
take the game seriously you need to keep more accurate records. It can't
be that hard to note the duration of sessions and even the approximate
number of hands.
I have number of hands (estimated) I was involved in, number of hours
played (rounded up or down) total won/lost and the date/casino/
stakes. Sorry i did not put all that in there.
For one I put EVERY
loss/win and do not round up or down (I think you should be able to
see this with wins like 37.00 or losses like 116.00 etc) and EVERY
single one of my wins/losses is recorded which includes when I go down
on a Friday or Saturday and get drunk and play for 7 hours.
I did notice that your figures were not rounded. I told you the story
about my friend because I've always found it a very interesting insight
into how gamblers can deceive themselves if they choose to do so.
I hear ya. I appreciate you telling your story.
recall correctly I think my 170.00 loss in 4 hours was one of those
times that I got to the casino at about 12:00 and played until 4am.
OK. So you discounted the big loss because you were drunk. I understand
why you think that's justifiable but I still think you're wrong to do so.
Have you had any wins when you were on the beer? If so why haven't you
discounted them? Why not discount any losses where you're tired, emotional
or in a grumpy mood? Maybe you should discount any wins when you were 100%
fresh. See where I'm going?
Not ALL of my loses were due to being drunk, but I was just showing an
example of ONE of the times I did play drunk and that I did not
seperate out those results (maybe I should have? or kept a seperate
record of the times I was drinking while playing which is not that
much) Never won while drinking lol at least I do not recall if I
did. Most of the time if I go there drinking I play until I bust
out. I think maybe 1 or tops 2 other times with 100.00 losses where I
was drinking while playing I do not do it that often)
I am not trying to convince anyone here that I am a winning player or
a losing player. I know how I play, but rather put my results out
there to see what people 'see' when they look at them.
I'm not sure what you expected people to deduce from your results given
that, as already mentioned, a session is not a reliable/constant unit of
measure. You seem to accept that now so no need to thrash it to death. I
do still question the logic about you being sure you are a long term
winner prior to keeping any records but being a loser for the period you
do have records and yet believing your play has improved. How can you be
so sure that you are a long term winner? If you are down over the past 5
months why are you so confident your game has improved?
Good question. I see things differently at the table now. I have
moved back up to the limits I like to play (albiet not as often as I
would like) which is the 10-20LHE which has a better average player
and feel more confident at that table. My 'read' ability I believe
has gone sky high. I probably still am less than 50% with what I
think people have, but I usually have a couple different hands I put
someone on and they end up having one very close to one of my original
guesses, but he just played it weird.
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