Re: Innate talent vs. learned skills



On Apr 17 2007 2:00 AM, Howard Beale wrote:

On Apr 16 2007 7:19 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

On Apr 16 2007 6:27 PM, Folderol wrote:

For discussion:

Have you ever met - or are you - a player who couldn't tell you what
pot odds or implied odds are, but at the same time this player is
skilled beyond belief? One who has innate abilities, natural read on
situations and odds but couldn't break down the math for you if you
handed them a calculator?

The only pot odds math that matters is the ability to distinguish between a
draw
and a long shot and between a big pot and a small pot.

That's pretty much it.


Just curious.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com

That pretty much describes me. I could lay out odds and stuff like that
given enough time to think about it (and I might need that calculator) but
during the play of a hand I almost NEVER know how much is in the pot and
I'm not paying attention to it at all. I'm paying attention to the other
players and adjusting my calling and raising requirements according to who
I am up against. Once I read a couple of poker books to get an idea of
basic concepts I was off and running. I once read that Layne Flack said
he couldn't explain to somebody else how it was that he played and how he
won. I understand what he meant because it sometimes seems to me that I'm
pretty alone in being able to read other players.

Actually, pot odds is for losers anyway.

Pot odds is all about calling.

That's why I introduced the concept of bet odds in my hold'em book. 
Understanding when to bet and raise is a lot more important than understanding
when to call.



Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com



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