Re: OT: More fuel for climate change

"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldinyyz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You're an idiot.

You're a turd.

Recognizing WHY SS is a ponzi scheme and how it ought to be adjusted makes
me a capitalist, for the moment.

No it doesn't.

I'm guessing you're completely devoid of economic thinking.

Your guesses aren't worth much then.

A) Your head is Randian.

Yours is empty.

Quoting Ayn Rand by rote and showing no thought at
all makes you a "Randroid"

By rote? No thought?
You wouldn't know though it if walked up to you and pissed in your face.
You wouldn't be able to get over the boner you got from the experience.

b) None of the other cites are remotely immature.

Wait a second and you will come up with one.

c) Noone alive with an IQ in double digits or better favors pure
capitalism.

Ah, there you go.


You know less than nothing.

Brilliant! Brilliant!

I cited an article from NG. Go have someone read it to you.


I'm a complete moron.

Fixed it for you

Backing Bush (sr, I thought it was obvious) and Reagan shows an
understanding of Supply-side economics, the most capitalistic approach to
date in the USA.

We're lucky to have brilliant economic theorists such as you around.
It's a wonder that more of our economic policy is not based on the works of
Dildo the Sorcerer.

95% of the scientists involved in researching global warming, you retard.

How many scientists would that be, King *** of Turd Hill?
How many, and what are their areas of expertise? We all know yours is in
flinging your own *** at the wall, but 95% of all scientists that are as
stupid as you is not impressive.

What do you do for a living? Stand in a costume and wave at people all
day?

That would be more useful than you.

It's not. Still, vegetation grows infinitely better in the Sahara than it
does at the poles.

It is.
That's the point, you're a *** for brains.

Good, you agree that it is better for life in the Sahara than it is in on
the Poles.

See, your whole argument is "the poles are cold"

No it isn't.
And I'm surprised that in your delusional mind you could even come up with
that much.

No ***. The Sahara is hot.

That is not why the conditions are not ideal for life.
Still, much more life exists on the Sahara than does on the poles.

Neither of them are conducive to good growing conditions.

Yet infinitely more life exists in the Sahara than does on the poles.

Too cold : bad

Poles - No life

Too hot : bad.

Some life.

You : too stupid to understand.

You: Trying to compensate for lack of argument with stupid ad hominem.


Polar bears were doing fine.
Now, since the ice is breaking up, they're dying.
Clear example where warmer kills.

Awww, did the picture of the polar bears sitting on the ice make you cry?
Most populations of polar bears are stable, some are declining, and some
are
thriving.

I didn't look at pictures.
You're simply too stupid to talk to.

Here we have another example.
I expose your stupidity regarding the polar bears and your only reply is

But you make a fine punching bag.

The polar bears are fine. And the ones that do die are dieing due to
predation.

I'm ancient.
I'll be a little older tomorrow.
Will you be a little stupider?

As long as I never get stupid enough to buy into an Al Gore movie, I have
you beat by a long shot.

Because we are talking about vegetation that we need to eat.
No, we're talking about global warming.

No, we were talking about vegetation that we need to eat.

It will alter the landscape, reduce available land, shift the best
locations
for growing crops, require huge infrastructure changes, and be expensive
as
hell to deal with.

It's also not happening.

Even a *** for brains like you should be able to grasp "fix it cheap or
fix
it expensively"

You propose to fix at great expense something that is not broken.

Since the plants we like to eat grow better during greenhouse phases of
climatic shifts, I am glad we are not in an ice age phase.

A perfect non-answer from a perfect *** for brains.
We grow wheat where now?
Don't bother to look it up. Just accept it's in America somewhere.
Temp increases and the best wheat climate moves up to Canada.

Wheat needs for it to be warm too.
1. Warmth will not drive the wheat away.
2. You are fucking stupid.

What happens, idiot boy?

I suppose I will just shoot a couple pigs out of the sky.
You're delusional.

And you define warm as 120 degrees.
No, I define "A counter-example to 'warmer is better' " as any zone that
shows it.

You don't know anything about counter-example except for hurling insults.


Not by any means we can measure.
Go read the article.

Or go move 3 feet under water and let me know how it works out for you.

As I thought.
You have nothing, so you produce an impossibility out of your ass.


freezes.
Dip***, the ice does more than just float on water. It also reflects
solar
radiation.

According to you and other morons, solar energy is not what is causing
global warming.
Cow farts are.

As it melts, the earth absorbs more solar energy and the temp rises more.

Then you should be glad to know that the ice in the Antarctic is increasing.

It's a feedback loop. Ice ages start when glaciers move down. It takes a
lot
to undo them.

Apparently, all it takes is my car.

Likewise, if we ever melted all the ice on he planet, it'd be much harder
to
have an ice age. We'd be doing a lot of swimming, of course.

That's like saying if Dildo the Sorcerer grew a brain, he would be
intelligent.
Neither one of these scenarios is possible.

Delusion.
Fact.
Christ, how long you been a *** for brains?

Christ, how long have you been a *** for brains?

Here, moron.
Let someone with half a brain read this and explain it to you

Maybe that's the problem. Since you don't have that much brain, you
aren't
getting through.
I'm probably only 4 times as smart as you, so yeah.

You're not even smart compared to the rest of your work crew at McDonalds.


There is little doubt that the Earth is heating up. In the last century
the
average temperature has climbed about 0.6 degrees Celsius (about 1
degree
Fahrenheit) around the world.

Frightening!
No, but the effects are.

Nope. Actually the effects are practically immeasurable, and certainly not
negative.

From the melting of the ice cap on Mount Kilimanjaro, Africa's tallest
peak,
to the loss of coral reefs as oceans become warmer, the effects of
global
warming are often clear.


However, the biggest danger, many experts warn, is that global warming
will
cause sea levels to rise dramatically. Thermal expansion has already
raised
the oceans 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters). But that's nothing
compared

Well, is it 4 or 8?

It's a spread.
That's why it's phrased that way.

It's a fantasy. That's why it's phrased that way, you fucking baboon.


Overpeck ought to know, if he's been studying planet Earth, that the sea
level rises and falls, just like the climate does.
You ought to know, that if it does it badly enough, it can destroy things.

Yes, the global killing asteroid theory.
If you fart long enough, you can choke us out with methane, you fat fucking
dildo.

Go look at New Orleans.

New Orleans has nothing to do with global warming, it is a city if idiots
(your words) that choose to live beneath sea level.

Computer models are inadequate to tell you what is going to happen
tomorrow.
Google Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas, Harvard-Smithsonian physicists
with
more than half a brain.

You're a complete and total moron.
A) Computer models do rather well telling you tomorrow's weather.

No they don't.

Next
month, not so much.

But you can rely on them for the next year, next 10 years, next 100?
How can you afford to pay someone to type this drivel for you?

B) Water rising isn't a chaotic system; it's generally linear.

Who cares what system you use, since the rise has been so minute that and
ant living on the seashore wouldn't notice it?

C) If you could read, you'd know this already.

I can read well enough to see you don't know your ass from a hole in the
ground.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/04/0420_040420_earthday.html



And no further comment, meaning you didn't read, didn't learn, and you
have
no intention of doing so.
You want to pontificate while ignorant, surely your best approach, since
the
facts are against you.

Repeat whatever you feel is relevant.


Penguins live there.
Christ almighty.

No they don't.
http://www.penguin.net.nz/faq/faq.html
"Do all penguins live at the South Pole?
No penguins live actually at the South Pole but two species do live on
the
edges of the Antarctic continent. The islands of the antarctic and
sub-antarctic support the largest number of species, there are several
species that live in temperate climates and one at the equator (the
Galapagos penguin). No penguins live in the northern hemisphere."

There, see how it's done?
I provide you the cite and the relevant information from the cite.
Who has time to read every article that an *** like you posts on usenet?

They can't live at the South Pole, it is too cold and there is it is all
ice. They would not be able to survive because they would not be able to
eat.
You see, animals and plants that we can eat do not survive in ice.
Everything needs water.

That's what I thought.
No answer from you. Just hang in there and maybe Al Gore will tell you what
to say in the sequel to his movie, which he will call "Belcho the Sorcerer,
and Incontinent Truth"

No, moron.
Mars is almost close enough to be warm enough.

All you would have to do is move it close enough to be in the same orbit
as
Earth.
No.
All you'd have to do is use global warming to heat it up.
CFC's in the atmosphere would quite likely terraform it.

Or maybe that cool Genesis thing they did on Star Trek.

Terraforming Mars will be a huge undertaking, if it is ever done at all.

Maybe that little Mars rover they sent up there is all they need.
The ice caps on Mars are already melting.
I guess pretty soon it's going to be a fireball.

Initial stages of terraforming Mars could take several decades or
centuries.

Or a terrazap spell form Dickwad the Sorcerer.

Terraforming the entire planet into an Earth-like habitat would have to be
done over several millennia.

Why should it be so difficult, when we can raise the temperature on Earth a
hundred degrees in a much shorter span of time?

Some have even suggested that such a project
would last thousands of millennia.

Finally they have narrowed it down to the range of global warming
predictions!

So, how are we supposed to transform a
dry, desert-like land into a lush environment, where people, plants and
other animals can survive. Here are three terraforming methods that have
been proposed:
Large orbital mirrors that will reflect sunlight and heat the Mars
surface.
Greenhouse gas-producing factories to trap solar radiation.
Smashing ammonia-heavy asteroids into the planet to raise the greenhouse
gas
level.

One more:
Belcher the Sorcerer lays his fat lazy ass on the planet and farts it into
overdrive.

NASA is currently working on a solar sail propulsion system that would use
large reflective mirrors to harness the sun's radiation to propel
spacecraft
through space.

Why use solar radiation? Just run a few fucking Chevys up there!

Another use for these large mirrors would be to place them a
couple hundred thousand miles from Mars and use the mirrors to reflect the
sun's radiation and heat the Martian surface. Scientists have proposed
building mylar mirrors that would have a diameter of 250 km (155.34 miles)
and cover an area larger than Lake Michigan. These gigantic mirrors would
weigh about 200,000 tons, which means they would be far too large to
launch
from Earth. However, there is the possibility that the mirrors could be
constructed from material found in space.

Is this one of those uses for taxes that you were talking about elsewhere in
this thread, dip***?

If a mirror this size were to be directed at Mars, it could raise the
surface temperature of a small area by a few degrees. The idea would be to
concentrate the mirrors on the polar caps to melt the ice and release the
carbon dioxide that are believed to be trapped inside the ice. Over a
period
of many years, the rise in temperature would release greenhouse gases,
such
as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), which you can find in your air conditioner
or
refrigerator.

Ahh, so we can just dump all our air conditioners and refrigerators on Mars.

Another option for thickening the atmosphere of Mars, and, in turn,
raising
the temperature of the planet, would be to set up solar-powered,
greenhouse-gas producing factories. Humans have had a lot of experience
with
this over the last century, as we have inadvertently released tons of
greenhouse gases into our own atmosphere, which some believe is raising
the
Earth's temperature.

Obviously we'd be much further along if they got in touch with Bunghole the
Sorcerer.
Bunghole could explain it all to them, and Mars could be the new Florida.

The same heating effect could be reproduced on Mars by
setting up hundreds of these factories. Their sole purpose would be to
pump
out CFCs, methane, carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the
atmosphere.

But they would have to worry about it getting warm and then what would the
polar bears do?

These greenhouse-gas factories would either have to be ferried to Mars or
made out of materials already located on Mars,

Maybe they could borrow it from the life there, since it is one of the two
best places to find life in the solar system, along with a moon somewhere
out there.

which would take years to
process. In order to transport these machines to Mars, they would have to
be
lightweight and efficient.

Fashioned form hemp?

These greenhouse machines would mimic the natural
process of plant photosynthesis, inhaling carbon dioxide and emitting
oxygen.

Hey, don't we need the carbon dioxide to create that Martian oven?

It would take many years, but the Mars atmosphere would slowly be
oxygenated to the point that Mars colonists would need only a
breathing-assistance apparatus, and not a pressure suit as worn by
astronauts.

Did you read this *** before you posted it?

Photosynthetic bacteria could also be used in place of or in
addition to these greenhouse machines.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/terraforming2.htm

How much will they have to raise the temperature before the bacteria can
function?

We know you're retarded, Thoth.
Maybe someday you'll get a clue.

That's funny, Bonehead the Astro Sorcerer.

Venus has Massive greenhouse issues.

That's nothing compared to the solar issues it has.

Wrong.
But then, thinking is your weakest skill.

Hey, maybe you could just catapault your Jetta straight to Mars with the
engine running and get the whole thing started.


Venus?
The mean temperature on Venus is 456.85 C or 854.33? F.
The temperature on Venus is hotter than on Mercury even though it is
nearly
twice as far away from the Sun as Mercury! This is because of the massive
greenhouse effect on Venus. The large amount of carbon dioxide and other
greenhouse gases trap the heat from the Sun in, raising the temperature of
the planet three times more than it would be without an atmosphere - up to
a
temperature of 464?C!

How many cars did it take to get all that CO2 there?

Do you make *** up?
Or are you retarded.
Let's look, shall we :
http://www.scienceden.com/physics/astronomy/venus
The surface of Venus is about 90% of the way covered with relatively
recently cooled and solidified basalt lava.

Are you saying Venus is experiencing global cooling?

It has two areas of higher land
similar to continents. These are called Ishtar Terra and Aphrodite Terra.
Ishtar Terra is close to the size of Australia and Aphrodite Terra is
around
the same size as South America. The highest mountains on Venus are called
Maxwell Montes after James Clerk Maxwell. These mountains surround a
plateau
called Lakshmi Planum. There are also some lowlands between the two
continent-like areas, these include including Lavinia Planitia, Atalanta
Planitia and Guinevere Planitia.
On Earth, the wind and water will erode impact craters away over time. But
on Venus, there is no surface water and it is not windy enough.
Venus has no liquid water on its surface!

Where's that humidity?

I could be wrong.

Clouds? You say Venus has clouds?

Yes.

The clouds of Venus cover almost its entire surface and are made of sulfur
dioxide and sulphuric acid.

Oh, I guess you say Venus has clouds too.

You going to try and bull*** that THAT is humid?

Maybe the Martians stole it all.

--
"It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone
collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is
someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of
slaves and masters, and intends to be the master."
- Ayn Rand


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