Re: Dealer error

I completely agree with your advice, but when I dealt I got into the habit
of not mucking any hand that was turned face-up. After I dealt several
years I got to make up my own mind about proper dealing procedures. One
of them was only mucking hands turned in face down. If the cards were
both on their backs, the hand nowadays, is recognized as live, and with
cameras to back it up, I just don't see why they need to be mucked. Also,
I can read hands as fast as anyone, and I dealt very fast. It just looks
horrible for a hand to get turned over, I look at it for less than a
second, and dump it in the muck. I know that would cause problems, so I
just push the pot, and one out of 500 times I'm wrong. But it gets fixed,
and no one can accuse me of just mucking the winning hand, I left it face
up, and someone noticed it.

Doing this, I feel I've earned enough trust from the people I've dealt to
for them to realize they could release their hand, not for me to put in
the middle, but so the other people in the pot could see (which might be
the middle), and so I could get the cards out of the way of me pushing the
pot.


On Sep 2 2006 9:08 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

On Sep 2 2006 5:22 PM, tkddad wrote:

Since I was all in, the dealer took my cards and
the other guy's cards and put them in the middle.

Just like they do on TV :-).

In a tournament go ahead and turn your cards face up when he asks you to. 
But,
if he trys to put the cards in the middle just keep your hand on them and
tell
him, "We're not on TV, buddy".




James L. Hankins wrote:
"tkddad" wrote in message
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Just came back from a road trip in California/Nevada
and played in a couple of holdem tournaments in Las
Vegas. This was the first time I've ever played live in a
B&M casino after playing for over a year on-line.

Came in 4th out of 71 in Paris cashing out $280 with
a $50 buy-in. There was this hand in particular when
we were down to 9 in the final table that I fondly
remember.

I was short stack and went all in with A9o. Everyone
folded around to the big blind who called and flipped
over a pair 8s. So I was 55/45 underdog.

The flop was 224 rainbow. The turn was a 3. So I
thought to myself. I had 6 outs which now became
10 with the 5s. The river was a 5 and I lucked out.

To my horror, the dealer looked to both sets of
cards and mucked mine.

I told him "I had a straight". He then turned over
my two cards from the muck pile, apologized to
me and pushed me the pot. Never did he said
anything to the guy in the big blind who thought
he had won. The guy in the big blind never
complained about it so the game went on.

Was this handle correctly? Does this happen
often? I would have been out if I was not alert.



It happens often enough that you should always keep you cards in your
hand
or under your control until you are satisfied you are beat or until the
dealer pushes the money to you. It sounds like you released your hand for
some reason before the dealer pushed you the money. Don't do that.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com

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