Re: How do YOU play this hand? Do YOU go broke?


thenutlow wrote:
I think you made one of the chief poinst of this hand in your aside:
"How did he (the button) like the SB's re-raise? Of course, I have been
saying that since my first response and no one seems to see my posts. I
don't think Brew mentioned it in HIS original post.

well, thats certainly the main point of this entire thread. Maybe it
was designed that way so brew can say "look how well I read people"

He asked us to make the decision with the information he provided. With
THAT infomration, I don't think it is an easy fold. It is a barely
POSSIBLE fold. I really hate having to make decisions with only the
information I would have if I were online. That's why I don't play much
big-bet poker online. I managed not to go broke set under set in an
early round of a local tournament. I didn't fold but I managed to keep
enough chips to survive and eventually come in second. I don't think I
could have avoided going broke with only the objective facts that are
usually included in one of these threads.



The other chief point is that he has an "M" that is big enough to pass
up an opportunity.


if you keep folding spots which are laden in EV, you wont have a large
"M" for very long. I think people focus too much on the "better
situations" they hope will arise.. but they dont come as often as
people think, quite often they dont come at all

True enough. Weak-tight advice is, however, going to remain popular as
long as so many people posts the fact that they lost the hand in their
original post. Probably longer.


The guy that did the math is I think a bit tight in his raising
requirements for the button in my opine. If the guy is a aggro, his
range is quite a bit wider. Especially with Mr Brewmuthian laydowns on
the BB, he is going to be correct raising with close to any 2 cards.
Whether he is doing that is the debating point, but I wouldn't be
surprised.

If it was our very own Mattros on the button, I rather believe he would
raise if the cards were blank =)

No. The BACKS of your cards cannot be blank. They must be the same
color and pattern as everyone else's cards or it is an illegal deal.

Will in New Haven

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And I have heard Doc Watson play Columbus Stockade Blues"
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