Re: Estate tax pyramid scheme


"da pickle" <jcpickels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Bob"

It's not a matter of stealing, it's a matter of taxation. If we don't
collect the estate tax, we will need to collect some other tax.
Personally, I would rather pay taxes after I'm dead than while I'm
alive. Which taxes do you think we should raise to replace the estate
tax if we eliminate it?


There we have it in a nutshell. You can only think of your money given to
the government as the government's money.

Uhh, that's because it is the government's money, you moronic mental midget.
This is one of the more tiresome conservative cliches -- the government is
spending your money. Uhh, no. When money is legally transferred from one
entity to another, so does ownership of that money. If you spend the money
your employer has paid you on groceries, are you spending your employer's
money??? Of course not. It became your money as soon as he gave it to you.

I don't think the estate tax is the only tax that needs eliminating. I
don't think that any taxes should be raised to replace it.

So your answer is that we should increase the national debt by a trillion
dollars over the next ten years. Brilliant. Fucking brilliant.


What an odd argument... because the wealthy are able to dodge some of
the effects of the estate tax, we should eliminate it? If they truly
are able to avoid this tax, why are they spending so much money
lobbying Congress?

I guess you do not understand the difference between the rich and the
super rich.

I guess you don't understand that the super rich only avoid paying estate
tax on multi billion dollar estates in your right-wing deleriums.

... all tax systems collect more money from the wealthy than
from the poor, for obvious reasons.

There you have it again ... obvious that if you work two jobs, you should
pay more than twice as much tax ... it is obvious.


Uhh, who said that? Actually, you may wind up paying less than twice as
much if each job pays just less than the FICA maximum.

If I am fortunate enough to have
a sufficiently large estate, I will be perfectly happy to pay my share.

If you were fortunate to have a large estate, you would not have the class
envy being displayed.

There is no class envy being displayed.

My daughter will get along just fine with her measly $4 million
tax-free, plus 60% of the rest.

Why should she get anything? She did not earn it!

Great strawman. No one is arguing that heirs should receive no inheritance
if they didn't earn it. You don't seem to want to address the fact that his
daughter would receive $4 million tax free, plus roughly 60% of everything
over $4 million.


William Coleman (ramashiva)





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