Re: Good/Bad Play
- From: Danikar <danikar@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 08:46:26 -0700
Please note that there is more than one way to play poker. I consider my play to be 100% correct. But I am not going to fault someone for playing diffrently. One key thing to poker is to change your play, loose or tight. Agressive or conservitive. I would consider your play this game Loose but Conservitive. Personally I prefer a tight agressive style. But to each there own. =)
I get dealt [Th Jh] on the button. UTG raises 3.5 times the blinds. Everyone folds. I put him on a big pair but decide to call knowing I can beat him if I hit a big hand on the flop. The blinds both fold.
//Calling this bet was your first mistake, assuming you put him 2 overcards like AK your only 40% to win. And you are getting about 1:1 for your money. If you put him on pockets your anywhere between 50% for low pockets, 30% if its a pair of 10s, and 10% any higher pockets.
If you had say one more caller I wouldnt fault you for this call, cause you would be getting 2:1 and you would be about 35% to win, in theory. You were actually about 10% i think
The flop comes [7h 3d 9s]
I have an inside straight draw but also back door flush and two overcards.
My opponent raises just over half the pot. I know I don't have the correct odds to call. I am 100% sure he is not bluffing but I still have a lot of chips left relative to the blinds to take a chance as I think I am capable of outplaying most of the people at the table and I have an outside chance to cripple my most dangerous opponent. So I decide to call.
Remember to count your pot odds, you have 4 outs for the straight, 1.5 outs for the backdoor flush draw. 6 outs for your overcards. That gives you 11.5 outs. 11.5 outs * 2 cards to come * 2(to make percentage) = 46% You are getting 3:1 and you only need 3:2 so I cant fault you for this call. Unless you already put him on a high pocket pair. Then you only have 5.5 outs and are 22% to win. In that case you need 4:1 and the call was wrong.
The turn is [As]. I have missed my card. My opponent raises again about 1/3 of the pot. If I call I will have put 3/10s of my chips into the pot. I am still not in bad shape if I miss the river. The implied odds of hitting it though are pretty large.
I detect that this was a weak raise. This could be that he thinks he cannot be beat and is raising an amount I might call.
I call.
Usually when you say a weak raise that implies a weak hand. Next time the terminology I would use is "I felt this was a value bet, but I knew I still had outs" By raising 1/3 of the pot he is giving you 4:1. Your outs havnt changed much except your overcards. Since the Ace is out there the Jack and 10s are no longer really outs.... So you about 10:1 here. So the call is pretty much wrong. The guy with 3 Aces shouldnt fault you too much here though cause he was begging for you to call and he got what he asked for. With the overcards as outs you have 23% chance to win and your about 4:1, so if you think he is full of it then it you made a good call. He did though =)
The river comes [8c] and I hit my straight. My opponent pushes all-in. There is no quads, full-house or flush possible. I have the highest possible straight so its not a difficult decision to make. I call.
You hit the nuts and you called, move is 100% right here.
My opponent turns over [Ah Ac] and my straight beats his top set..
Had I missed the river I would of folded and still been comfortable with an M of over 20. However, I made my hand and broke a dangerous opponent.
My question is who played this hand badly ? Me or him ?
Was I right to call him pre-flop and post-flop ?
Or did he make a mistake by not being more aggressive on the turn and going all-in thus not allowing me to draw to the straight ?
dn
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