Re: Ethics question. What would you do?
- From: arlo payne <arlo_payne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 Apr 06 8:04:54 GMT
On Apr 30 2006 12:28 AM, Perry Friedman wrote:
In article ,
ADB Jester wrote:
In article , davoicergp@xxxxxxx says...
You are a "platinum" player at a casino (regular, medium-high roller). You
play in a free slot tourney and win $150. You take the ticket to the cage
and the cashier mistakenly pays you $1500 instead of the $150 you are
entitled to. The casino realizes the mistake and immediately begins paging
you (within 2 minutes) and calls you at home (more than once a day for a
few
days). What do you do?
B. Point out the mistake to the cashier immediately
I *never* would keep money that didn't belong to me. Ever. I'd go way
out of my way, despite any inconvenience or hardship, to do the right
thing.
C. Return the money when you realize later (for whatever reason) the
mistake
I can't fathom how anyone could even get away from the cashier cage
without noticing this and IMMEDIATELY pointing it out. Stipulated that
said person never even looked at the money (was not watching the cashier
count it out, etc), and didn't realize it until they got home, said
person should get back in the car the instant he noticed it, and make
things right with the casino.
I've done that at the grocery store over a bottle of water that
accidently missed being rung up (tucked next to my son in the child seat
of the shopping cart -- I spent more in gas going back to pay for it
than the item was worth, but I *owed* that money to the store), and I'd
do the same for any sum of money, or any item regardless of the price.
Whatever the monetary value in question, my integrity and honor are
worth vastly more to me. Apparently, that's not the case in most of the
world today, because that grocery clerk looked at me like I was stark
raving mad when I returned to pay for that water.
I suspect, though, that you know what's right here yourself... or you
wouldn't be asking the question.
In response to some other responses, I have to said I'm somewhat
disappointed in RGP. You don't do the right thing to avoid "karma being
a bitch", to gain a comp (you shouldn't need to be bribed to do the
right thing), to avoid the dunning phone calls at home, or even "because
it isn't worth ruining some clerk's life who would be fired or have to
make up the difference from pay" (sorry, Perry). You do the right thing
because its *right*. Period. It's not your money, and you have no
right to it whatsoever, regardless of who screwed up.
To Brian S. Slick, and to "Randy".... I would be proud to associate with
you or do business with you any day. Well said.
Jester
But what makes it the right thing? Suppose you find a defective slot
machine that pays out far more often than it should? Do you play it or
do you report it? Suppose you get overpaid by $100 from a slot machine?
Do you take the extra money or do you turn it in and report the machine?
Suppose the casino had an automated machine to cash in your tickets from
video poker and sometimes it pays out extra money and the casino knows
but doesn't care?
Suppose you find a roulette wheel that comes up on 23 once out of every
20 spins? Do you take advantage or report it?
Suppose you find a blackjack dealer who keeps exposing his hole cards
to the table?
Suppose you get home from grocery shopping and find out that one of the
items you bought was not on the receipt or you were undercharged by $1
for it?
Suppose you get the check from a restaurant and the soft drinks don't
appear on the bill?
I am not saying what is "right" or "wrong" in any of these situations.
Perry
BTW, I actually found money (about $600) sitting in one of those ticket
machines, and I walked over to the cashier (leaving the money in the
machine, which was in plain site) and told them about it. The money was
supposedly claimed later, but I think it's possible, if unlikely, that
the cashier kept it...
Suppose you worked for an online site that cheated its players. Would you be
able to sleep at night?
Well can you? (just wanted to shake you tree)
Perry you know damn well when you know directly your actions effect a single
person and you know who that person is a real human with any level of moral
fiber will walk away form this old bullshit of "putting it to the man" crap
I for one and many others here really do care about how our actions effect
others beyond the "screw them" way of life so many love to lead.
Just the other day I gave a car to a young man that works at Blockbuster so he
could take a better job and improve his life. Some would say I gained nothing
by doing this but they are so wrong. I gained the knowledge of helping someone
in a way that will effect the rest of their life.
Each day I give thanks for having Jody in my life because she is so kind to
others even after so many bad things has happened in her life.
I am never surprised to find perhaps a young girl and a child in my living room
that has been abused by a husband or boyfriend that Jody has found "who knows
where" that need Jodys help.
Most of the time Jody has care packages in her car that she gives out to the
homeless during her daily travels.
We are never without bags of cat food to feed the strays and she always keeps
water outside for the animals.
Hell for the past 3 years during Thanksgiving the older people in are area are
all given a full cooked turkey and all the trimmiings that Jody has prepared.
many times I will go out to the storage area to get something I have seen out
there )a can of this or a can of that) and find almost everything gone. When I
ask Jody about it I already know aht the answer will be. "It was just sitting
around and I gave it to the food bank".
If just 10% of the people had the heart and kindness that Jody has the world
would be a much better place to live.
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