Re: Poker lessons?
- From: "RussGeorgiev@xxxxxxx" <RussGeorgiev@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 11 Apr 2006 15:52:35 -0700
J K wrote:
Hey Mark,
You started you poker career much the same way I did, and it is a good way to
start. Playing 2-4 will teach you a lot of skills that people tend to pass up if
they just move up to the big game becuase they cant "handle the suckouts", well
thats a skill you have to learn becuase if you can take it at 2-4 you can take
it anywhere (super high limit not inclusive).
Ridiculous
Starting off playing $2-$4 limit will not ever help your game, unless
you get lucky. The reality of the game is it's better to have a job and
earn than to play this game.
Russ Georgiev
www.pokermafia.com
The fact that you have read your
books is crucial to your survival and shows you have had some good mentoring so
far.
One thing that is obvious is you overextending your bankroll, now its pretty
difficult to just start out with the reccommended $1200 for a 2-4 bankroll (300x
big bet) Which is understandable, but as long as you are building towards that
and know bankroll rules. Thats perfectly legitmate, problem is this, throwing
tournament play into that equation (at 30-50 a turny) further overextends it, im
not sure of exact amount vs buyin in reccomended but I know its much more then
you have.
Barring the beginning comments lets just say that as of now you have $460
bankroll to work with. Here is where the true decision comes in, limit or no
limit. Based on the limited information you have given i would definately
reccommend playing limit for quite some time longer. Build up that bankroll and
try to have enough to move up limits.
Im going on the assumption that you are playing by the book low limit strategy
(a la jones/sklansky(winning low limit)) which is a very tight rigid strategy.
For the beginning player it is a great way to play, you minimize the risk while
maximizing time at the table which MUST be taken advantage of as time to learn
and observe. The key to this stratgey is that it doesnt put you in tough
marginal situations where your forced to make decisions that arent taught in the
book and that will come as a result of experience.
While this strategy is great for learning limit it will leave you as a sitting
duck in NL, assuming your competition is observant at all. In all reality NL is
full of marginal decisions (IMHO) which are learned through experience. Consider
lower limit no-limit online perhaps.
And now the strong finish...
You dont have nearly enough bankroll for NL, not even close, I would stick to
2-4 for a while till you build up that bankroll, then consider moving to a
higher limit game (3-6 seems right) build up you bankroll from there. If your
really intent on playing NL definately consider some low limits to get a
hang of the game and so you arent risking too much of your bankroll (loosing 30%
of your bankroll in one night is terrible)
Sorry for the rambling but this is all the stuff i wish people would have told
me when i was first learning.
If you want more advice let me know and I will email you
On Apr 11 2006 2:25 PM, Mark Minnie wrote:
I am frustrated. I just began playing poker about 6 months ago. I started
at a B&M playing $2-$4 limit HE. I play one B&M 4 table tournament each
week. I think I am doing all right (won 1 tourney and 3rd another time. I
almost always make it into the top 7-10 out of 25+ players). The limit is
tougher, but overall I have won money from the tables. I have started to
play in a NLHE cash game with $1-2 blinds. I have built my bankroll up to
above $740, except a big loss last night put it down to $460 for all
tournaments and cash games. I want to start focusing on the NLHE cash
games. Seems like I do okay for a while in the NLHE cash games, but after
about 1-2 hours, I seem to start losing some money slowly, but steadily. I
have tried to analyze my game. Am I playing trashier hands? Bluffing too
much? etc. I don't want to blame the entire loss on bad cards. I don't
see any big changes in my play from start to finish. I have read several
books on limit and no limit (Sklansky, Jones, Harrington, etc), and I try to
play mostly by the book, but mix it up every once in a while by playing off
hands when I can limp in. I know there is a way to improve faster. I am a
big golfer and when things are going bad, you have someone else analyze your
game. They can see things you can't. I feel the same about my poker play.
Is there any such lessons or similar services available for NLHE play? I
don't really like to play online, but I would if someone or some software
could point out deficiencies in my play. I love the game, and I want to get
better fast. I want to be a winner. It seems like analyzing my own play is a
little bit silly since I am a beginner. How can I find the leaks if I don't
know where to look? Where should I turn for some expert help?
Mark
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