Re: Very Few Succeed as a Pro



On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:46:48 -0700, Joe Long <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Feb 06 0:24:28 GMT, Nick Wool <43079532@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Feb 18 2006 12:08 AM, Joe Long wrote:

With that kind of attitude, there would have been no Pioneers, or for
that matter even Colonies on the east coast.> 

The Native Americam would have been glad for a start.  And the African's.  One
man's pioneer sprit is another's death/slavery.

I will stop this OT nonsense if you Americans stop using your early history as
some sort of shinning example to humanity.  Look, it was not some kind of great
moral leap forward for human kind, but the systematic robbing of the Natives
Americans of their land, killing hundreds of thousands directly or in directly
in the process, and enslaving million of Africans. 

Now that I re-read this tripe, I am more outraged at it. Who the HELL
are you to lecture us on stealing land and killing "natives?" In 1865
the U.S. had the most powerful military on the planet (due to the War
Between the States), but chose to demobilize rather than join the
"enlightened" Europeans in enslaving native peoples all over the
globe. The last European Imperial Colonies were not given up until
the 1950's, and some of those only with blood (e.g., French
Indochina). We got drawn into your little internecine spat in 1917
due to your (Europe) attacking our shipping, and without the U.S.
munitions and aid in 1939-1941 no one in Europe would have been left
opposing the Nazis for us to join. Then we lost a half-million of our
people cleaning up that mess.

So take YOUR jingoistic bull-hockey and blow it out your ear.

Now lets get back to poker.

It had its unseemly side, but the same can be said of any culture you
care to examine, in the history of civilization. The western
expansion of the U.S. was also a grand and heroic achievment, carried
out by people of strong character and resolution. "The timid never
left home, and the weak died along the way." You can call it
jingoistic for me to say that, but it's the truth.

Slavery was common throughout most of history, and the slave trade at
the source (in Africa) was carried out by Africans. That we took so
long to rid ourselves of it is to our shame, yes, but we did rid
ourselves of it.

I often reflect on the Front Range of Colorado today, with its
millions of people, and think how a Ute or Araphoe or a fur trader
from 1850 would react to it if we could bring him here in a time
machine to see it. BTW, I suspect that in a past life I was one of
the Utes living in this region.

I am proud, justifiably proud, of the achievements of the people who
settled the West, and I won't be dissuaded by Politically Correct
revisionist claptrap.

All nations have their shameful periods in history, but most do not glorify them
to the extent of the US.

Bull***. Of course they do.

--

Joe Long (aka ChipRider)
Somewhere on the Range
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