Re: Expectation ? in low stakes LHE
- From: "Flushed" <dorsetvalley@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:03:56 GMT
In one of his books or videos ( I forget which one ), Phil Helmuth said that
even he couldn't beat the rake at the Vegas low limit tables. Considering
his ego, that is a strong negative.
"torx" <knopf_ii@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> i'm at .25 bb/100 currently ....
> which doesn't just mean that i suck ....
>
> anyway, the rake is huge in B&M so that takes alot of your profits.
> 10 bb is definitely out of the question long term, even 5 bb is way too
> high imho.
> the problem is that in loose games not only your winrate increases but so
> does the variance, when you cap with your aces and 5 people call, you
> won't win all that often, but the average win of your aces goes way up to
> make up for it.
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2005 12:25 AM, F8thless wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to figure out what I should make /100 hands for very
>> loose
> 2/4
>> online games. I did a search on google and got the 2+2 forum, where they
> say:
>>
>> "a 3 BB/100 winrate at .50/1.00 (online) is often regarded as great. 6
> BB/100 is
>> probably unsustainable. Once you reach 2/4 (online), 2 BB/100 is great
>> for
> the
>> long term and 4 BB/100 may be unsustainable."
>>
>> This seems very low to me, especially in games where you often have 5
>> people
>> seeing the flop for a raise, drawing to inside straits or with small
>> pairs
> and
>> no sets and even some hands that appear to have no draw at all.
>>
>> I've heard that a good player should do about 1BB/hr in a B&M game, which
> would
>> presumably be about 3 BB/100 hands, and a good player can certainly do
>> much
>> better in a loose game.
>>
>> It seems to me like 15 BB/100 hands should be reasonable. Is this too
>> high
> or
>> to low?
>>
>> When I play tight aggressive, I'm at 16, after I play for a while, i
>> start to
>> play poorly and when I play passive, I break even, and the few times that
>> I
> was
>> a little looser but still aggressive, I averaged 10 BB/100. (I also
>> found
> that
>> the first session I play each day averages 19 BB/100, but the last one of
>> the
>> day is -1)
>>
>> So, If I can manage to always play well, what is a good long-term
> expectation?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>
>
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