Re: OT- Allah - The reality of

On 5 Nov 2005 10:01:47 -0800, "garycarson"
<garycarson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:

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>> It's the arrogant assholes that are the Railbirds using their 20-20
>> hindsight to pretend they didn't go along with the pre-war
>> intelligence estimates of every major country.
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>I didn't beleive the claims Powell made at the UN when he made them. I
>beleived them before he made the dog and pony show, but that
>presentation was so thin only an idiot would believe him. Almost
>nobody in the UN beleived him.
>

Pffft
As if that collection of thugs and tyrants in the UN were some honest
representatives of their people.

The latest reports about the Oil for Food scam show how our so called
European allies like France cared for nothing but their sweetheart oil
deals with Saddam.

Bush and Powell were just going through the formalities of pretending
that the UN had some moral authority.
Anybody that pays any attention knows that they don't.

Only an idiot like J F'n Kerry actually believes that the UN does have
some moral authority.

>The democrats who voted for giving Bush war powers are the same slime
>that voted for the Patriot Act. They are intellectual and political
>cowards who just thought they had a win-win situation. They'd win if
>Bush fell on his face, and if he didn't fall on his face they win for
>having supported him.
>
For sure.
As big a batch of weasels as you could imagine.

Now they want to have it both ways.
They are now out there like a whole bunch of all knowing Railbirds
with their brilliant 20-20 hindsight.

>We have serious problems throughout our government. That's no reason
>to keep supporting Bush, he's the rotten core.
>

So then, you don't think Bush is an Idiot?
He isn't a puppet of Karl Rove and the Neocons?
He makes his own decisions after listening to all the options?

Glad to see you decided to go on record.



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>> "I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence
>> back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from
>> gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up
>> and then moving those trucks out." -
>> Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003
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>So what? Bush said he knew where they were. Nobody before him claimed
>that. I don't think people who said they thought Saddam had WMD were
>lying. I think people who said we knew where they were were
>delusional.
>

So then, you do believe that they were there?

Personally, I don't remember Bush ever saying he knew exactly where
they were.
Do you have some quote from Bush where he said that?

Are you sure that you just didn't swallow some Moonbat Rhetoric
without consulting your BS detector?

>After the invasion, Bush used troops to look for hidden WMD instead of
>to secure the country. So while he looked for weapons in the sand,
>Iraqi's followed a scorched earth retreat, blowing up pipelines and
>utility plants. I think Bush really did believe in WMD's, but that's
>just delustional, which is probably worse than lying.

He probably made the mistake of believing Hans Blix and his merry crew
when they kept on saying that they just needed more time.

Hey, honest people can have honest difference of opinion about the
wisdom of going in to Iraq.

As I recall, you were always opposed to the invasion of Iraq, both
before and after the invasion.
I don't have a beef with people that are consistent both before and
after the fact.

I do have a beef with people that want to have it both ways.


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