Vegas Trip Report
- From: "Robert Price" <rmprice@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:00:48 -0800
Las Vegas: Dec 27,28,29 2005.
Stayed at the Flamingo, now known as Harrah's Grand Vacations.
Went to the $5 table Wed afternoon after receiving an email on my PDA from
Alan Shank. Alan was nice enough to answer my question posted earlier about
one type of play:
$50 DP on come out with $10 PL on 5, $12 PL on 6,8. Also $10 Field. Keep
all place bets and adding to field for 3 throws after point established.
Then take down place bets, stop field bet, leave DP bet and wait for a
natural. This was a play that a friend of mine had seen. Without going
into much detail, Alan stated that the hedging basically limited any gains
that might be made. I therefore skipped this method of play.
The table was fairly hot and I used the 5 count of the Captain and Frank
Scoblete fame. This 5 count worked great in that it kept me from betting
heavily and then having the shooter immediately 7 out. Only about 3 of 14
shooters (total number of shooters at table) seemed to get through the 5
count. I played for about 2 hours and these 3 folks seemed to get though
that count fairly consistently. There were also quite a few lousy shooters.
I kept them in mind for any Don't Plays that I will describe in a moment.
However, for the shooters that got through the 5 count, I would place double
odds behind my $5 P bet, with $6 PL on the 6,8. Once the point or 6,8 was
hit several times, I would up my place to $12 PL 6,8 and 4x odds on the $5
pass line bet. Sometimes I would also bet $5 PL 5. Occasionally I would
place a $5 field bet. I did this usually if the point was 5, 6 or 8; the
field bet gets me the rest of the numbers when I have place bets on the
other two numbers (5,6 or 8) that are not the point. Only downside was that
if the 5,6,or 8 was thrown, the gain from the place bet was reduced by the
loss of the field bet. I therefore felt better making the $5 field bet when
I had $12 PL on the 6,8 and $10 PL on the 5 rather than $6,$6,$5, resp. I
had lots of wins from the field bet on 9 and 10. Also 2 and 12 came up a
fair amount. What is everyone's opinion of the field bet? I am undecided
if it is any good or not.
For the few shooters who were lousy with the dice, they seemed to be that
way consistently. For them, I would skip the 5 count and just do a $5 DP
with $30 odds. I did quite well with these DP bets also. The table seemed
to be very consistent. The good shooters were always good and the bad
shooters were always bad. I always used the 5 count on all known good
shooters just in case the table changed.
I began with a $300 bankroll and finished up after 2 hours with a $600
bankroll.
The rest of the trip consisted of two more days. Tables were choppy on
those days. Very difficult to get ahead playing right or wrong. I made two
basic mistakes on my last day. I was up $50 from a $300 bankroll on a $10
min bet table. I normally do not likely playing a $10 table but I believe
my type of play may fit. When I was up $50 it was at the end of a very hot
shooter. I got to the table when he was already 2/3 through his long roll.
I should have left, but I said that I had a $200 loss limit and continued to
play. I actually walked after being down $150. I should have walked when
up $50.
Another problem was with a session that I began with a $200 bankroll. I got
ahead $100 but didn't walk with that. I continued to play until I was even
for that session.
Overall, for the 3 days I broke even (or maybe I was up $12). I will have
to work on learning to walk with gains, even small ones.
Later,
Robert Price
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