Re: Pouchong/Bao Zhong



A chinese character can only have one radical. That's the way the
Chinese radical dictionary works. Okay I checked Qing/Clear more
closely on Zhongwen and water is the radical(85). The radical for
Bing/Ice is 15 which is the tree trunk with two limbs not three as
sometimes is used with water. It still looks like a colloquial of two
characters BING(ice) and QING(green).

Jim

PS On Zhongwen use the Radical Dictionary and find Radical 85 which is
water (The number in the link name at the bottom of the browser
correspond to the Radical number). Click on that and find stroke count
8 and in that list you'll see QING/Clear. Click on the character for
more information. For BING/Ice use Radical 15 and stroke count 4.
QING/Green is Radical 174 stroke count 0 meaning the character itself
is a radical like water with Radical 85 stroke count 0. To use a
'real' Chinese character dictionary you better be good at guessing the
radical and stroke count of a character.

Lewis Perin wrote:
"Space Cowboy" <netstuff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:


Lewis Perin wrote:
"Space Cowboy" <netstuff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Here is my freehand character drawing of the two characters for
Pouchong from one of my Taiwan tins:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/BriefPics/TaiwanPouchong.jpg

That's a single character: Qing, as in Clear.

Thanks, Lew. This is a Taiwan vendor tin with a sticky label
describing the tea from the same tin used with other teas. It is these
two characters

Two *radicals*, one character.

with the character for tea.

Qing Cha would mean something like Pure Tea, I think.

The leading edge for Qing Clear is a spine with three connected tic
marks. In this case it is three disjointed marks.

It's the radical for water, which unfortunately doesn't look a lot
like the *character* for water.

I assume the second character is the Qing for green.

Yes, the second radical is that.

Give me a dictionary with radical and stroke indexes and finding
that leading character of three tics should be a snap. I couldn't
find it in my dictionaries or Zhongwen.

Here it is:

http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=6e05

Or, from the water radical, with 8 extra strokes:

http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/UnihanRSIndex.pl?minstrokes=8&maxstrokes=8&submit=Submit&radical=85

However if I assume a spine and two tic marks then that leading edge
is the same for the word ICE.

See above: it's water.

So maybe this is a colloquial for Ice Green which would fit Pouchong
because of the cold mountains of the North from which it comes. I
spent enough time yesterday visiting sites with the PinYin Pouchong
and the Chinese characters for Baozhong nearby to verify they are
the same. Until Kuri jumps in it'll remain a mystery.

No, see above for Qing Cha.

I noticed the character for 'green' tea is not the same green used
here.

I think Qing in its color sense is often translated as Blue-Green.

/Lew
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