Re: Any Cabbage Kids here? (CABG)

In article <cqvr06-qvm.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote:

"Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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SteveB wrote:
"Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.

You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top
three things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.

I have a husband who has been taking coumadin for 7 years. His
cardiologist has told him that he doesn't have to avoid foods. He gets his
pro-time or INR checked every 3 to 4 weeks and the physician adjusts his
dosage.

I don't have a medical degree, but my husband's physician has one.

Well, believe it or not, there are doctors out there who don't know what
they are doing. Any doctor that tells his patient on coumadin that they
don't have to avoid foods should be flipping burgers. Apparently your
husband's cardiologist is one of those. But he's probably be crappy
flipping burgers, too.

Doctors have many legitimate reasons for giving advice that is different
from other doctors. There are also many reasons for a doctor to give
different advice to patients with the same condition. Among these are
dosage level, lab result history, other conditions and patient
compliance.

I submit that if you get any information provided by the makers of Coumadin
that there is a list of foods that people on coumadin should completely
avoid, if not severely restrict their intake.

The following source says to avoid cranberries and alcohol, and gives a
list of foods (including spinach) that you should not change the amount
you eat without talking to your doctor:

http://www.drugs.com/coumadin.html

The following source says:

"Avoid sudden large increases or decreases in your intake of foods high
in vitamin K (such as broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, Brussels sprouts,
kale, spinach, and other green leafy vegetables, liver, green tea,
certain vitamin supplements)."

It also gives a limit for cranberry juice.

https://members.kaiserpermanente.org/kpweb/drugency/drugdetails.do?drugID
=270211

I don't have a degree either, but have been going through this for fifteen
years now, and have a brother and sister who have done the same. My sis is
1.5 years post transplant now, and had was the first woman in the United
States to get a LVA.

I do not know everything, but I really do know what I know.

I do not take Coumadin or know anyone well who does. I visit the lab
all too often. I have to wait in line, show my health plan card,
sometimes a photo id and then sit in the waiting room until I'm called.
I see people walk in and the receptionist says, "Hi John, have a seat
and I'll check you in". Those are the Warfarin (what my HMO calls
Coumadin) patients. I do *not* want to be on a first name basis with
the lab people!

:-)

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
dabel@xxxxxxxxx
.

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