Re: NFR DNR was re: A time for prayers.


"Dave Smith" <adavid.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <6pgs6kF83i22U4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Jean B." <jbxyz@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Peter-Lucas wrote:
For the people who pray........There is a young couple amongst us
that
really need your prayers right now.

For those of us that don't pray, all we can do is send our love and
friendship.



If this is about whom I think it is about, my love and positive
thoughts are headed their way.
Send more than that. Send miracles.
--
Peace! Om
Sending thoughts for a mostly painless exit from this life into whatever
comes next, and for minimal suffering.
greed.


Death isn't the worst experience imaginable.
I see about ten people each week just hanging on to life by a thread.
It is especially sad when they really don't want to live and just can't
just fade away.
Electing NFR (not for resuscitation) is the way to go as most morbidly
ill patients are vegetables after being resuscitated.
One older doctor, in his sixties, has NFR tattooed on his chest so he
won't be resuscitated if he arrests.

Anyhow, trust I'm not being too morbid.

Around here it is Do Not Resuscitate ... DNR. We have had to deal with
that with several family members.My MiL was adamant about not wanting to
be kept alive on machines, but my wife and her sister were concerned that
the hospital might call their aged father and he would gave in and let
them use extraordinary measures, so they arranged for him to call them
before giving an answer.

My mother had a DNR and on her last day the doctor was on my case to get
hold of my older brother because he had Mom's power of attorney and
wouldn't even talk to me about it. When I finally got hold of my brother
I took it told him what the doctor wanted to talk to him about told him
he had my full support to follow her wishes.

I had to deal with it once myself. When my father died I assumed the PoA
for my aunt, who had Alzheimer's and had had several strokes. My father
had had the PoA because my cousin was not mentally competent. I had a call
around 3 am on a Sunday morning from a doctor who told me that my aunt had
had another stroke and wanted to know if the DNR order still stood.
Needless to say, I was caught completely off guard and was half asleep. I
took his number and told him I would call back in a few minutes, which I
did. He told me that her prognosis was no good. They did not expect her to
survive, though it might take a few days. I told him that she had signed
it when she was competent, so the order stood.

It is a tough decision to have to deal with, but you have to respect a
person's decision not to be kept alive artificially. That is no way for a
person to live.

Understood. Palliative care can only go so far.
My Mother in Law had bile duct cancer which had spread to liver, and with
morphine she was allowed to pass away peacefully with only my wife and I
present.
She seemed to have a smile on here face when she went.
Yet I've been present when families have fought tooth & nail to keep their
elderly sick mother or father alive. It can be very distressing. Thank you
for sharing this with me.

Kind regards
BJ



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