Re: Mussels

"Goomba38" <Goomba38@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I'm curious about this story or report you read. Do you have a
citation?
I'm sure I have a copy of the original report,
but it's in a box which although it's about 20
feet from me now, it's behind and under a whole
bunch of other stuff. Perhaps this summer I'll
get to that layer, then again perhaps not. :-)

If I recall correctly, the EMT crew did not see
a response by the iris to light, and decided the
guy was dead based on that.


I remember the news stories being pretty spooky, especially since they
said some people didn't understand that cooking would not destroy the
toxins in some cases.

I was watching Alton Brown last night and wasn't paying a whole lot of
attention but he discussed the legal requirement of tagged bags of mussels
so if illness was detected they could trace backwards...

The toxin issue is interesting, as of course there are diseases (Guillain
Barre for example) as well as other food toxin poisonings (i.e.botulism)
that manifest into nerve paralysis (causing respiratory paralysis) but my
alarm is wondering how the first responders decided the guy was already
dead on the scene with so little evidence of death to go on? We have rules
about this stuff such as "no one is dead until they're warm and dead" LOL
(which is important for those cold weather or drowning victims) and
pupillary response is hardly anything to go by. Short of a few unpleasant
obvious signs of death those folks aren't always in the best place to
determine that the guy was already a goner, y'know?


If I recall correctly, the stories about the infamous Bon Vivant chowder
(botulism) said the victim was history before the amulance got there. That
was WAY back, though. 1960s? Maybe paramedics have more tricks up their
sleeves now.


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