Re: Florida Helmet Law for Kids

On Sat, 02 May 2009 12:07:40 -0400, wjkambic@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Sat, 02 May 2009 09:19:46 -0400, Aunt Nasty <ye_olde_muleskinner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:31:07 -0500, John Hasler <john@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The purpose of calling it "<Somebody's name here> law" is to appeal to
emotion rather than reason.

Emotions are valid, too, when not contradicted
by facts or logic, but not for John, apparently.

Actually, they are not.

You didn't notice that I said "when not contradicted
by facts or logic", but it's right up there, Bill.

Emotion can lead to a law that might have a valid purpose (I suppose
"Amber Alerts" might qualify)

You're uncertain that a system to raise the alert for a
missing child would be a valid purpose? What doubt
do you have about it? It's not actually a law, btw.

but also lead to other results like
mandatory minimum sentence laws (common in the DUI and drug crime
world). Both classes flow from the same thing: emotion overpowering
reason.

That's false, Bill. Mandatory minimum sentencing laws
are the result of the greed-based prohibition of certain
drugs, and were instituted based on cold, hard greed.

http://www.speakout.com/activism/issue_briefs/1127b-1.html

Emotional responses to the "swine flu pandemic" have lead [sic] countries to
ban the import of U.S. produced pork; countries to destroy entire
swine populations within their borders; have lead to demands that the
U.S.-Mexican border be closed; and have triggered highly misleading
comparisons with the Great Flu Panemic of 1918-20.

Actually, that one came from American-owned pigs, too,
and some consider this one to be a descendant of it.

http://www.lubbockonline.com/news/032197/1918flu.htm

http://www.disabled-world.com/health/influenza/swine-flu/1918-swine-flu-outbreak.php

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/swineflufarm/

The factory-farm producers whose unwholesome tactics
have produced this disease don't really deserve to enjoy
increased profits over it. When people find alternatives
to such products, there are certain distinct benefits.

Some say "print is dead." I think reason is buried with it.

That's not thinking, Bill, that's your inability to manage
electronic reading materials. Perhaps you have some
emotional objection to using a computer properly.

Legislators are human (like jurors, judges, police officers, etc.).
When they take their oath of office they are required to "rein in"
their "humanity" (as those other folks must) lest we get some really
bad results.

What do you imagine would be a bad result of someone
retaining their 'humanity', Bill?

Judgment of others is a myth-based excuse to harm them.

On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:31:07 -0500, John Hasler <john@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The purpose of calling it "<Somebody's name here> law" is to appeal to
emotion rather than reason.

Emotions are valid, too, when not contradicted
by facts or logic, but not for John, apparently.

The only reason for doing so is that the
proponents know that if people actually think about the consequences they
might not support it.

Why would anyone not support a rule that keeps
some kids' smashed brains off public thoroughfares?

Note that these things are usually rushed through
immediately after some dramatic incident with great urgency. They don't
want reasoned discussion. They want knee-jerk reaction.

John could have been referring to 9/11 and the illegal
invasion of Iraq, there, had he been thinking.

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