Re: DO I BREED OR NOT

Susie wrote:

A white mark bigger than a quarter and located on a foot can be enough
to disqualify a horse who may be a living, breathing, stunning,
animal- and who could bring such verve and sport into the breed and
take it into newer great heights.

Moving the Friesian into the sport horse category is already taking it away from the standard. I feel like that the same way I do about the different types emerging in the Cleveland Bay and the Irish Draught--the traditional horse is being lost to chase a modern market. That said, I do understand that breeds change and people need to make a living. My hitch is that so often such changes are not for the best of the breed long term (to wit, what halter has done to Arabians and Quarter Horses).

And I already said I think breeding based on paint jobs is silly. That includes with the breed registries do it too. But, if you are going to say Breed X is wonderful and I am going to make more of them, I think you should work with the standards. I'm not keen on the uninspected or failed inspection Irish Draughts being used at stud, either.

It makes no sense and for this matter there was a well known ( now
deceased)
geneticist who was hired by the FPS to find a way to not have the DNA
pool get smaller, and she suggested that they breed one generation of
friesians to andalusians and the FPS went ballistic.
Sp she did it- and bred her red mares- yes she owned 5 of them, ,
(as well as at least 8 approved stallions in the USA and Holland,) to
one particular andalusian sire and got incredible palomino
warlanders- the combination of andalusian and friesian. I really
doubt one could say she was in it to make Purty horses or common or
marginal.

Well, she was not doing it to promote the breed with the registry, since while they will currently register chestnuts they are pulling approval from the stallions and trying to weed it out of the gene pool. You can argue that she was making a better Iberian mix, but it isn't a Friesian if it does not follow the rules and go in the stud book. Same basic ideas as those designer dogs, aka mutts, that people spend a lot of money on. And sure, I can say she was in it to make Purty horses. Or pretty ones. Or ones she felt were attractive to her.

And if somene is promoting a line of horses doomed to be weeded out of the stud book, that certainly is making the non-registerable horses of the future.

And please note, I don't think papers are the be all and end all. Nor do I have a problem with intelligent cross breeding for a purpose (so says the owner of a Cleveland Bay cross, an Irish Draught Sport Horse, with another IDSH on the way, one grade Appy, and a registered TB, Paint, QH, and Appendix QH).

Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest (PA)
http://www.themaresnest.com
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