Re: Infuriating Farming question

Ocean of Nuance <lizzardwomanRMOVE@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:68arvtF2o2p8gU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

Jill wrote:
Barbara Bailey wrote:

There are some folks who are seriously (and apparently unbiased-ly)
trying to determine if cage-free is really any better for the
chickens than caged here, too.

Absolutely
I have spent many years advising folks on their birds, and doing vast
amounts of reading on the research that has been done on commercials
and domestics. As well as keeping over 1000 ranging birds myself..
I have SERIOUS concerns about chucking 40 million [for the UK] 300
million [EU] and 250 million [for the USA] birds outside.

Some of the Problems

(snip)

Heat stress is lethal and rapid,

Well that let's out North Carolina!

I'm convinced the guy is simply wrong or is calling the large open
warehouses, if they are indeed the norm, "cage-free."

The large open warehouses *are* cage-free. That's all cage-free is, is no
cages. Not access to outside, not moveable pens on pasturage it's cage-
freeif the birds aren't in cgaes.
Where he's dead wrong is that cage-free is the norm. It's an exception, and
will stay an exception for a long time.
.

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