Re: Myth-Based Condemnations are Cruelty

On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:16:09 -0400, law <lawiserGONE@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It wasn't my fault. I'm not responsible. It was a mental condition."

At one time, people with vitamin deficiencies were
criminalized, due to such ignorance as yours, Lisa.

What's worse is that you want to make innocents
suffer and you're desperate for an excuse to do so,
even to the extent of belief in myths.

"...as many as 1/3 of all admissions to some southern
mental hospitals were pellagrins said to be schizophrenic..."

http://www.nutrienthealth.net/library/jom/1999/articles/1999-v14n01-p003.shtml

On Wed, 30 May 2007 12:38:24 -0400, Bill Kambic <wkambic@xxxxxxx> wrote:

A better example might be malingering.

It's not a good example, either, as if deceitfulness is
a result of defective brain function, it's not done by
choice, either.

"Readers of Brain may find the two contributions on cognitive neuroscience of particular
interest. Experimental paradigms using functional MRI begin to allow the exploration of
the anatomy and physiology of lying with a series of intriguing experiments. Lying is
associated with longer response times and greater ventrolateral prefrontal brain activity.
The comparison of individuals with a subjectively ?real? limb paralysis induced by
hypnosis with individuals with feigned paralysis (apparently indistinguishable by clinical
examination) is used as an analogy with conversion disorder versus malingering, and
indicates clear differences in patterns of brain activation. New levels of experimental
ingenuity are being developed to explore further the neural processes involved in
voluntary acts, deception and intention."

http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/127/4/943

Then there's suicide. Not the kind that flows from depression but the
ritual kind demonstraded by Japanese commanders in WWII.

Why would anyone imagine that would be a 'choice', when
it's driven by external factors?

Or the "murder/suicide" bomber of the Middle East.

Why would anyone imagine that would be a 'choice', when
it's driven by external factors?

Some folks, for their own reasons, choose ...

You have no evidence that it'd be choice.

Wallowing in your mythology doesn't substantiate it.

It is known that children, for example, will get into trouble
to get attention, because they don't get sufficient nurture
from their parents. Even negative attention gives them
that which they seek, in desperation.

Why do you want to assign blame to those people who
experience desperation?


No one would choose to indulge in stigmatized actions,
but many can be forced into them.


Look at the way ignorant and cowardly people were forced
to go along with war crimes in Iraq because they couldn't
rally the resilience to question those who abuse office.


"it is possible to fake a poor performance without formulating a conscious and intentional
plan (Braverman, 1978)"

http://nanonline.org/content/text/prof/malingmem.shtm


Some people will try to claim that horses would choose
to fake, for example, lameness, but there's no evidence
for that, either.
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