Re: OT not back shoes



lizzard woman wrote:

"lawiser" <lawiserNO@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:u%D_e.89077$qY1.1697@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| John Hasler wrote:
| > LisaW writes:
| >
| >>While belief in Big Bangs...
| >
| >
| > Scientists do not "believe" in theories in the sense that you "believe" in
| > your god.
| >
| >
| >>...with no real proof...
| >
| >
| > There is no "proof" of a scientific theory: just confirmation or disproof.
| > The big bang theory fits the facts (such as they are) and has not yet been
| > disproven, so we go with it for now. That's how science works.
|
| Sorry, but for a scientific theory to be considered viable, one must be
| able to duplicate the premise. Otherwise, you have theory to fit facts.
| Well -- the American Indians had theory they came from different
| worlds (first, second, third, I believe the current is the fourth but
| I'm not sure). They left one world for another through holes called
| sipapus. Their theory fit the facts as they knew them.
|
| The theology of a superior Being who created the Universe fits ths the
| facts (such as they are). It's possible the Being said "Boom" and there
| was you big bang. Again, theory that fits the facts.
|
| Just because someone who, for whatever reason, is called a "scientist"
| says "Big Bang made the Universe .. I know because it fits the facts I
| know" doesn't make it so.
|
| Yes, there is proof of a scientific theory possible. However, Big Bang
| isn't proved. It's a theory.


And now, a quote from Bob Kolker...

"Science is about what is Out There. Religion is about what people believe about what is Out There. Since they have no common point of intersection there need be no conflict.

Science is about real things and happenings. Religion is about various notions and attitudes of our persona and intellect. Science is objective. Religion is subjective. Science is serious. Religion is fair[y] tales and myth dressed up to seem more important than it is. What do science and religion have to do with each other?"

Well shoot, now that you quoted Bob Kolker -- what else is there to say?

Except -- why do I care what Bob Kolker says?


LisaW -- Before I lay me down to sleep And fall into a slumber deep Hear this little prayer of mine Hope it gets to you in time Bless those on land and sea and air Who fight for freedom here and there Send special blessings from above Protect them with your shield of love Return them safely, we humbly pray To the Land of the Free And the Home of the Brave .



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