Re: Very OT



lizzard woman wrote:

"lawiser" <lawiserNO@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:FTVLe.609383$cg1.337229@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| lizzardwoman6000@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
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| > You can't yell "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater (when there is no
| > fire) and you shouldn't be able to pass off religion in public school
| > science class as if it was not pure mythology.
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| Hmmmm, exactly which method to you see as how the Earth came to be? Big
| bang or are you back to the Blue Unicorn. And where is the PROOF of
| your method? It's been a long time since my college science courses,
| but I seem to remember all those non-religious methods were still all
| theories .... which sometimes can be pretty close to mythology.


Okay Lisa.  Since you reposted this I guess you want an answer!

1.  Hmmmm, exactly which method to you see as how the Earth came to be?

Astrogeology is not my field but what I remember from intro geology is that stars and planets slowly accreted due to gravitational attraction from matter that came into existence with the big bang. You know, you could google up ten bazillion better answers than I could provide from my memories from ~1977.

And just where did that Big Bang bang from?


2.  Big bang or are you back to the Blue Unicorn.

I'll take big bang over the invisible pink unicorn (IPU). The seemingly impossible duality of invisible and pink echoes, for me, the seemingly insane tripality (?) of the Father, Son , and Holy Ghost.


3. And where is the PROOF of your method?

I would direct you to the guys on the cutting edge of cosmological research. They have various evidences for their present theories.

But, evidence isn't necessarily proof. And there are sufficient other theories with sufficent evidence that still makes it all a big guess.

4. It's been a long time since my college science courses, but I seem to remember all those non-religious methods were still all theories .... which sometimes can be pretty close to mythology.


You are using the word "theory" colloquially to mean uncertain when you need to be using the word in the scientific sense which means the best explanatory mechanism in hand that captures the most data. When a theory is postulated and virtually no evidence is found that undermines it for years and years, it becomes a law. When a set of observations are viewed over and over again or are supported by several different and independent lines of evidence, they are regarded as facts. That man and great apes have a common ancestors and that all life exists within nested hierarchies is considered a FACT but the non-scientifically illiterate and is supported by homology, physiology, molecular biology, etc. etc. etc..

See above.

Proof is taking sludgy nasty water, pulling samples, finding out what all is making it sludge and nasty. Run it through the purification process I've theorized. Find out if I've removed all the sludgy nasties. I've either proved or disproved my theory as to whether or not my water purification method works.

Big Bang or any other means of a Universe coming into being is still just theory.

So if a Big Bang happened ... why doesn't it continue to happen causing constant Universal recreation .....


LisaW -- Before I lay me down to sleep And fall into a slumber deep Hear this little prayer of mine Hope it gets to you in time Bless those on land and sea and air Who fight for freedom here and there Send special blessings from above Protect them with your shield of love Return them safely, we humbly pray To the Land of the Free And the Home of the Brave .



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