Re: Rapid Erasure of Long Term Memories




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http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/317/5840/951




I had such an unpleasant experience twice, immediately following two
nervous breakdowns. I lost all memory of specific skills I had
acquired in the 4-5 years prior to the incidents.

I wonder whether this article means that something can fight against
this effect (I mean something that can be done now, not something
that might be discovered in a few years or more).

SD, this has been blogged (web logged) in several places and I only
posted the meat of the study. Slashdot.org had a great discussion
about this yesterday. People by and larged agreed (as do I) that
memory is what we in the computer business call a linked list. You
break a link, it takes a while, but eventually you'll be able to
dredge up the memory. I don't believe the article. I believe that
memory is holographic, meaning it's all over the brain, and cannot so
easily be destroyed. Remember also that we carry two distinct nervous
systems in our bodies: what we normally think of as the nervous
system and the enteric (gut) nervous system, discovered almost a
century ago. We have expressions which describe the way the enteric
nervous system affects us:

1) I have a gut feeling
2) She makes me sick to my stonach
3) I was so scared I soiled my pants
4) When I see that I want to vomit

I am keenly aware of the enteric nervous system because I hold the
world record in number of hours in EMDR, used to remove the effects of
prolonged, severe child abuse. After I got over a certain trauma,
there invariably would come burps and an upset stomach. Only when
the trauma cleared the enteric nervous system was it finally
desensitised.

I'm not sure, since the experiment dealt with sensory memory, whether
or not the enteric nervous system was involved.

I posted the citation as a starting off point. Google, or if you're
into clutter, iGoogle is your friend in further research into this.




Actually the only hint I could find was a post by Kofi mentioning that
Omega 3 *might* help against Kinase. Which I am sure doesn't help in my
case, as it makes things worse.

Though I agree that there may be different pathways, even substituting a
destroyed route with a new route, there is always a point of no turning
back, which I am afraid I reached during my unfortunate experience.

SDer, I've been doing TM and the TM/Sidhi Programs for years. I can tell
you that memories you are sure are long lost are still there. I often have
questions about the past or the name of something. When I do my TM, the
memories just jump up. So don't sell yourself short on memories. Please
consider the concept of state dependant learning and state dependant
remembering.


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