Re: 2nd experience in progress (was: Re: syrian rue trip report]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:19:15 +0100, pj <pj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:12:15 GMT, jesucristo2@xxxxxxxxxxxx (the 2nd
coming of christ) wrote:

I haven't tried rue extract yet, but I've read a bit about it - aren't
your doses a bit high?

not according to erowid and others... hallucinogenic dose is
anywhere between 15 to 40 grams... i wasn't doing a potentiating
dose...

Usually a dose of around 120mg (extract of 3g
of seeds) is used in a whatever-huasca mix.

i haven't attmpted to maye ayahuasca mix or any elaborate
combination. i was going for the quickest, simplest route to get
an LSD-like sensation.

Higher doses are usually
reported to have no particular interesing effects, but plently of
negative ones. I'm just wondering why you're taking so much, what do
you hope to experience?

a hallucinogenic LSD-like experience.... (since LSD is illegal)

some final notes: i was still not feeling good enough to go out so
i layed in the living room with my eyes closed facing up and had
saw some cool visuals of the same sort as with the higher dose but
milder (one was a truck pileup--basically like seeing it in a
movie--it was awesome), then hour later or so i went to the
bathroom and lo and behold, it only took 12 hours to digest the
food... next time i recommend your last meal be no later than 15
hours (and i might even go for a 2 day fast) prior to the trip.
and also i might do 30 grams, not sure on the exact dose yet...
definitely the dramamine and the lessened water amount were good
and the grapefruit didn't seem to counteract the effect... 4oz of
coffee i had prior to going the bathroom the last time may have
had a counteracting effect, or i was simply coming down at that
point, but i definitely saw trails and visuals (no music this
time, though) -- to recap: use cloth to filter, around 300 ml of
mineral water at the start, and don't take your eyes off it so the
water doesn't completely evaporate, and also don't eat food that
day...but the jury is still out on which poop experience was
worse...


pj

ok, i'm doing it a little bit differently this time because i
actually want to go out and party so here's what i did.. stopped
at trader joes and they had that st. pellegrino sparkling mineral
water, so i got a couple of those and half gallon of grapefruit
juice (already had limes and lemons at home)... then i got home
[after stopping at the pharmacy for chewable dramamine to help
with the nausea] and grinded 20 grams this time (as opposed to 40)
and used one lime, sprinkled it on there and then added 200 ml of
the mineral water (as opposed to 500-should have probably used 250
as you'll see later), then started boiling it, and had 100 ml of
grapefruit juice on the side to mix it with in the end... I ate 2
dramamines right before i started brewing it... lo and behold i
took my eyes off it for a couple of minutes and it almost dried
out (at around 20 minutes), but it was still sort of bubbling. so
i quickly put the grapefruit juice on there and turned it off and
tried to filter it that way but my coffee filters kept braking and
i lost quite a bit (and made a mess), so i don't even know how
much i did (maybe between 12 and 17 grams or so i think), but the
final amount was around 60ml or so [i didn't measure it] (next
time i'll get a cloth to filter it i guess)... drank it down in
like 3 sips, taste almost made me throw up but then i put a
riccola in my mouth and that tasted good so any hint of nausea
quickly went away... also today i ate a regular meal (as opposed
to fasting): 3 scrambled eggs with mexican cacti called nopales,
purple cabbage, radish and salsa... that was around noon, then
around 4:30 i had a beer as i was working in the garden then at
6pm i finished working and took a decent nap of about half hour or
little longer, but it felt good to get that rest in... and i also
took one small dump at that time (it was compact like cat poop) [i
think the beer helped with the digestion] [at this time i went
shopping] then around 8pm i started my brew like i said, by 8:40 i
had already drank it, and then had a couple of small burps, no
biggy, was feeling pretty good... finally, I just got finished
going to the bathroom one more time, and no problems there either
(little more loose this time and smaller, but not watery or
anything), it's 9:30 now, so it's almost an hour i guess, and i
think it's starting to hit me... definitely feeling something,
but it's obviously not as intense as 40gs, but that woulnd't let
me leave the bathroom even for a second, so as you see, I altered
the formula knowing that it might be a lessened effect, but good
enough for partying purposes... OK, it's after 10 so I should get
going... peace out... let me know if there are any questions by
replying to the thread-don't send emails or spam, please] thanks
for your kind attention...

octinomos

PS: [don't try this at home, leave it to the pressionals]

previously, i wrote:

i basically did a simple carbonated water (for low PH) and lemon
extraction of 40 Gs crushed seeds (grinded 30 seconds with coffee
grinder) boiling for 30 minutes and then filtering it through a
coffee filter and finally adding a little more lemon, OJ and
stevia to the final solution to try to make it taste better, but
it still tasted pretty gross, so it took me like an hour to drink
it all down, it was about 20oz worth of liquid and i had fasted
all day... then about half hour after finishing it started to hit
me but the first hour was basically spent taking dumps like 20
minutes apart, each time more liquidy until my digestive tract was
totally flushed out, then hours 2 and 3 the puking started, like
every half hour and it was all liquid (since i had not eaten) so
that was good. the puking relieved my nausea a little each time
and so the trip just got better and better. but the whole time was
just spent standing in the bathroom and then i had like 2 more
small liquid bowel movements (for good measure) and basically kept
puking like i said, but when i would close my eyes the
hallucinations were totally intense. one of the best hallucinatory
experiences i have ever had, but also one of the most nauseous...
thoughts were racing through my head when i would open my eyes and
when i would close them it was just faces of people and all kinds
of music going on, like carnival music and endless parade of
people of all kinds and other trippy visuals... when i finally was
able to leave the bathroom i went to lay in the living room
because i was pretty tired, and after an hour of laying down i had
one more small vomit and by then i was tripping really good and
whenever i would walk all my surroundings had like
vibrations/trails to them, but then i was just so tired that i
went to bed and finally fell asleep, finished the tea around 8pm
and went to bed around midnight or so... i wish i would have been
able to stay up because it was some intense visuals and trails
going on finally when all the puking and shitting had resided...
oh well... you never know what to expect the first time i guess.


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