Re: Newsreaders



On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:50:19 GMT (Chuck) wrote:

Not being familiar with these services like Yahoo DSL and the like,
where other people are having problems reading newsgroups, is there
some reason you can't download and install a copy of a standalone
newsreader like Forte's Agent or Free Agent? Or do these services not
have news servers, period?


On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:56:20 -0500, Brad Curfman wrote:

Some ISPs might not give their customers a free news server.

I've had DSL from Bellsouth and cable modem service from Charter. Both
of these ISPs gave me a free news server. However, there were some
newsgroups that I wanted to read that were available on Bellsouth's news
server, but not on Charter's.

So, if you are using a newsreader, or other application like Outlook
Express or Mozilla Thunderbird ( this is what I use ), you can only
read/post from/to the newsgroups allowed by your ISP - if you are using
their news server. Also, if you have a news reader configured on a
laptop and you connect to the internet away from home ( and you aren't
using your ISP ), there is a good chance your newsreader won't access
the newsgroups as ISPs will also block access to their news servers from
IP addresses that are not in their network.

If you don't get a free news server with your ISP, then you can you
google groups to read/post in most newsgroups.

ISP providers DO NOT focus attention on newsgroups. Retention is lousy
and often posts never fully porpogate. If all you do is read messages,
then as long as your ISP carries those groups that you desire, and
your posts propogate, then no point in going further. If, like many,
you are either dis-satisfied with your ISP news service/servers, or
want to download binaries, then you really should seek out another
Usenet provider. (Google "Usenet Providers")

As Brad said, many groups can be "googled" and you can read/post right
through Explorer, Firefox, or whatever internet browser you use.

Personally, I am a downloader and have gone through several Usenet
providers, currently EasyNews (main). Although there are fees for
3rd-party providers, it's all about the downloads here. If you want
it, and want all of it, then it will cost a few bucks. For my $9//mos,
I get all I need and then some.

I switched a long time ago to Forte Agent (Pro) because I am a DL'er
and Agent is packed with features useful to me. Free Agent works fine.
Only recently has Forte offered Usenet news-services because they know
many of their Agent customers have been unhappy with other providers.
I have tried their service (free for three months), and it works very
well. I currently use it as my secondary provider.

My ISP has news, but it's just awful. retention is barely 3 days and,
at least 50% of the posts never propagate. So I only use it as a last
resort or for a specific group that may not be available elsewhere,
but that hasn't happened in years.
.



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