Re: OT: Weight Loss was Help for MIL - advice please??

Yanno, way back in the 1950's there were some studies done that seemed
to indicate that some people have a genetic predisposition to be
heavier than others, and vice-versa. Not talking about abnormal
conditions here, just the way some people's body works normally.
Current studies are supporting those findings.

If you aren't signed up with the Times and don't want to sign up, but
still want to read the article, let me know and I will email it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/health/08fat.html?fta=y

A more science oriented one is here:
http://www.joslin.org/1083_4053.asp

and there are plenty of google hits to be found.

I just wish the health professionals would catch up to this stuff.

NightMist



On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:31:21 +1100, "Sharon Harper"
<sharonoz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm one of those who are healthy (apart from diabetes), active, don't eat
much and are fat (overweight, generously proportioned, whatever).

I have my specialist on my back every time I see her to lose weight, stop
eating so much, do more exercise, yada, yada, yada.

I've tried Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, the shake diets, tablets,
everything short of tummy stapling. My weight stays within a 1-3kg range, I
have norma blood pressure, my cholesterol is perfect (low even), my eyes are
fine and apart from my hands and the odd twinge in my knees or back, I can
run with the best of them.

What do you do? I've tried giving up all the "bad" foods, I've tried
existing without carbs - works for about 3kg and then that's it. I've tried
exercising until I'm a giant sweatball but zip.

I've figured I'll take it one day at a time - if I can lose a couple of kg
every time I see her, hopefully she'll be happy.

BTW I'm back seeing the chiro about my hands and he has asked me to go see a
surgeon. We have both agreed I have "trigger fingers" (where the hands get
stuck and you have to physically concentrate on getting them to unclench.
He reckons I'll need a slice and dice. I see the surgeon on 4/12/07.
Meanwhile he is using laser therapy to try and relieve the pain.

Yippeee Yooo

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"Taria" <tariawilson2@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:jOY0j.16994$9h.3233@xxxxxxxxxxx
I have been lucky that my nervous energy burns a lot of calories.
I do know that the arthritis in my lower back cannot take extra weight.
WHen you are lying on the floor in the middle of the night hurting
and knowing you cannot live with the pain I guess there is not a lot
else that matters. I was there at about 15 years ago and that has been a
big factor for me.
My mom was just overweight enough that her cancer tumor was blamed on
her weight and arthritis until they couldn't put her off any more. That
was scary to me too.

If you can carry the weight and not deal with high blood pressure,
diabetes, and other heart related problems go for it. A male over 50,
over weight (even 30 pounds) and with high blood pressure (even
controlled) is at high risk for a heart attack. I learned the hard way
with DH. I am not sure about the age with women.

Really few folks just drop dead. Usually they lead a declining quality of
life for a number of years before they get to that point. That was the
uncle we buried yesterday. His healthy brother, 10 years older had a
pretty rough day. It was really sad for all the family.
Taria




Tia Mary wrote:

Anne Rogers wrote:

....<snipped> ....if you're stable weight and fat, you could be eating
less than
me, but it not be enough less than your needs for the weight to come
off.
Definitely a complex problem and a mystery! ....<snipped>....
Anne


This is a long post so you can pass it by it you prefer :-). I used to
weigh about 310#, was 5'8" and in my early 30's. I tried every diet
imaginable and could not get rid of the weight. I was healthy as a
horse, no high blood pressure, acceptable heart rate, no cholesterol, no
problems with my thyroid -- just plain healthy AND fat. I would exercise
but that didn't help much either. I would lose about 20# and then
nothing more would happen. I tried hypnotism, acupuncture, etc. --
every medical and non-medical weight loss regime known to man.
I finally had my stomach stapled and lost the weight and went down to
about 150#. I looked anemic at that weight so I finally stabilized at
between 165# & 170#) and kept it off for about 4 years. I didn't do a
lot of exercise but I obviously had my food intake SEVERELY restricted so
I lost the weight. Then menopause hit and I gained about 40# in the
space of just a few months thanks to the estrogen the Dr. put me on. I
was going to Weight Watchers and exercising regularly and STILL gained
weight. I finally went off the estrogen after about 2 years with a total
weight gain of about 70# even tho' I was exercising and watching what I
ate.
I finally managed to lose some of that weight but the ONLY way I
managed that was to eat no more than 800 calories a day and doing heavy,
very strenuous exercise EVERY day for a minimum of 45 minutes! The Dr.
ran every test she could think of to try and find out WHY I couldn't lose
the weight unless I took such drastic measures. Absolutely nothing was
wrong with me as far as the blood tests went.
Then the arthritis got really bad, my back started to quickly go south
(it's just wonderful getting older -- LOL) and we moved from Lizard Land
to Magnoliaville and my weight went to hell in a hand basket -- LOL! I
gained back the weight and am again hovering around the 250# mark. I
signed up for CURVES about 1 1/2 years ago so that I could do exercises
that wouldn't hurt my "faulty parts" too badly. Of course, I still have
the weight but my arthritis and back aren't in destructive mode too
often. I'm at the point now where I have said "PPPBBBTTTTTT" to doing
all that drastic stuff that is necessary for me to lose weight. I'm not
sure I want to put myself through the misery of being so focused on
weight loss to the exclusion of everything else -- that's exactly the
mind set I need if I want to lose weight. Imagine what I have to go
through -- living on 800 calories a day and "strenuously" exercising for
almost an hour every single day just so I can wear a size 16 instead of a
size 20.
At 60 years old, it's just not worth it to me. I get my exercise, I
try to eat properly, I lead a relative active life (as long as my "parts"
behave) and I'm still "larger than the average bear". VBS -- DH honestly
doesn't care and my Dr. says that as long as I stay healthy and am as
active as possible there's not much to be done about it. Both sides of
my family have been mostly heavy people and they still live to be in
their 80's and 90's so hopefully I won't drop dead in my mid-60's from
some odd health problem. I just thank heaven I have never smoked and I
drink very rarely.
Anyway, if you're still reading this whole long post, I wanted to say
that there are a whole load of people out there who lead relatively
active, healthy life styles, eat properly and are STILL overweight. It
ain't fun to say the least and it's likely why I am such an assertive
person. CiaoMeow >^;;^<

PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
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The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the
majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with
the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.
- AA Milne
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