Re: OT : Page size change?

On 6/15/09 3:36 PM, "Dianne Lewandowski" <dianne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

lucretiaborgia@xxxxx wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:53:27 GMT, ellice <egirl22@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 6/13/09 10:36 AM, "lucretiaborgia@xxxxx" <lucretiaborgia@xxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:00:26 -0500, Dianne Lewandowski
<dianne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


It's called "for the greater good". If you knew doing something caused
misery, wouldn't you stop? I guess you wouldn't. I happen to be a
developer. Oh, how I wish people would stop using it. Old habits die
hard, particularly when those using it have no idea the misery it causes
for people who bring you nifty things like forums, blogs, and websites.

As Sheena pointed out: it's leaky, as well.

Dianne
Here's an item I am sure might interest you

http://gizmodo.com/5285452/os-x-snow-leopard-vs-windows-7-the-final-countdo
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Nice article. Personally, we use Safari & Firefox. Both fabulous on a MAC,
and have fortunately never, ever, had a system OS problem. Like them both -
a lot.

Also have Netscape & IE - IE is the worst, most likely to lock-up, not work
right. Used to have a couple of sites we used for business stuff the
insisted on IE - fortunately they changed to work with Safari or Firefox or
Netscape (earlier). So, for some years we've had Safari & Firefox in the
"Dock" - and try to avoid the unreliable Microsoft products. Do use Office,
which for the most part is reliable - except for periodic bugs in Word which
means you have to know to go and empty the library users cache preferences.

Ellice

And I will say to you again - no problems with MS, especially not with
Office (and I have the besmirched 2007 currently), Word within Office,
never had to do anything about emptying anything for that!

Netscape I dropped at Netscape 7, rubbish. Opera is great as is FF.
I do use IE once in a long while for very specific reasons, such as
checking my web site appears correctly if someone is using IE, but
that's about it.

I smile that Mac users feel they must bash MS - they don't use it but
are convinced it is all malfunctioning, well I can tell you, it
doesn't. Oh, and I have never had a virus or trojan. Best of all,
it all costs far less.

I'm not a MAC user, but since I develop web sites, I have a friend who
will check out a site for me. I also have tools I can use for
conformity issues.

If you're doing development, there is an Apple Developer's group - I believe
it is free to join. Full of info for those developing software, or sites.
The biggest thing with Apple, and one of the reasons that things have stayed
robust is their early insistence on standards of interoperability, constancy
in key-strokes, formats, etc for developers that were given source code
needed to produce software for the MAC OS platforms. In recent years they
have become more open for developers.

I bash Microsoft because they blitzed the market with Word - an inferior
product to Word Perfect. I have Word 2000 only because occasionally I
get a Word doc that won't open in WordPerfect. Most do. And they
blitzed the market with IE and Outlook. They took perfectly good
companies and trashed them with their marketing practices. On an
unsuspecting public.

Very true. One of our best friends, my old grad school office-mate, is a VP
on the W3 (world wide web) consortium, and runs a group doing the ISO
(International Standards Org) standards for web stuff. It is a huge
headache, and he has hilarious and frustrating stories of dealing with the
huge corporations - their minions - and how the PC side of the world has
been so uncooperative as compared to the MAC side. The mainframers, &
graphics guys (like SUN, Silicon Graphics) tend to be more open, as well.
But, we've hung out through some amazing conference calls - makes you want
to tear your hair out. When he went to MITRE (from his prior job) one of
the conditions was that they let him continue on the W3 board. Which they
do.

But the younger generation is getting savvy. Things may change. Or
Microsoft might get wise and fix their software. Either way, the
consumer will be the winner.

The buzz last year when MS had issues with Vista, some other stuff, and was
taking a big hit with the college group and MAC ads - instead of spending
money to fix the software they spent a huge fortune - orders of magnitude
more- on advertising. Fix your stuff - don't rush it, try to move out of
the cartel business - nope, they'd rather just continue along. It's too
bad. We have several friends that work in Redmond, and they're smart, good
people. But, the company is more interested in being a virtual monopoly
rather than making substantive quality improvement.

I don't get viruses because I use protective software that is GNU and works.

Dianne

That's good. No viruses 'cause we're firewalled built-in, and use virus
protection software. Honestly, I think in 20+ years, I've had to run the
software twice - just in case. But it's always there .

ellice

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