Re: Small Florida Town "gets it" (guns)

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:20:37 -0500, Don Foreman
<dforeman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:27:26 -0700, Gunner Asch
<gunner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:51:34 -0500, Don Foreman
<dforeman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<snip disagreements>

You know damned well that I strongly value my 2d amendment rights as
a responsible citizen. If you don't know that you haven't been
paying attention. Flawed-logic arguments like your preceding
paragraph can easily be repellent to thoughtful people so I think
they could aid and abet those intent on infringing or curtailing my
2d amendment rights. I do NOT appreciate that.

Ditto for the damned fool who showed up at a political ralley in
Phoenix with a rifle clearly of tactical intent (vs hunting or target)
slung on his shoulder. That is clear intent to intimidate because
there was no need for defense. I regard that as flagrant abuse of 2d
amendent rights. There's no excuse for that sort of behavior. Many or
most reasonable gentle citizens would find that offensive and even
frightening, which could easily make them less reasonable and more
amenable to suggestions for draconian gun control.

Damned fool who showed up with an assault rifle?

You mean the Black gentleman who showed up with a slung AR15...whom the
Left then proceeded to lie about..showing the gun but failing to show
the gentleman himself..and calling him a "white racist"? That "damned
fool"?

Exactly that damned fool with slung AR15 regardless of his skin
color, political stance, religion or legality of citizenship.


That "damned fool" showed to everyone, how deeply and how evil the
Leftwingers are when they made deceptive hay out of the fact it was a
black man carrying the rifle (legally btw). The word indeed got out,
and is simply just another plank pulled from under the gallows on which
the Leftwing is hanging itself.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/08/18/msnbc-no-mention-black-gun-owner-among-racist-protesters

"On Tuesday, MSNBC?s Contessa Brewer fretted over health care reform
protesters legally carrying guns: "A man at a pro-health care reform
rally...wore a semiautomatic assault rifle on his shoulder and a pistol
on his hip....there are questions about whether this has racial
overtones....white people showing up with guns." Brewer failed to
mention the man she described was black."

http://www.bluegrasspundit.com/2009/07/cnn-reporter-who-bashed-tea-party.html

Friday, July 17, 2009
CNN Reporter Who Bashed Tea Party Attendees has been Fired
CNN reporter, Susan Roesgen, called April Chicago Tea Party attendees
anti government and anti CNN. She called Fox News a right wing network
and accused them of being behind the Tea Parties. She tried to argue
with the protesters and support President Obama's position CNN cut this
scene from their coverage and had the original video removed from
YouTube. The video was later restored after attorney got involved. Now,
CNN has failed to renew her contract. "

Following Brewer?s report, which occurred on the Morning Meeting
program, host Dylan Ratigan and MSNBC pop culture analyst Toure
discussed the supposed racism involved in the protests. Toure argued:
"...there is tremendous anger in this country about government, the way
government seems to be taking over the country, anger about a black
person being president....we see these hate groups rising up and this is
definitely part of that." Ratigan agreed: "...then they get the variable
of a black president on top of all these other things and that?s the
move ? the cherry on top, if you will, to the accumulated frustration
for folks."

Not only did Brewer, Ratigan, and Toure fail to point out the fact that
the gun-toting protester that sparked the discussion was black, but the
video footage shown of that protester was so edited, that it was
impossible to see that he was black. The man appeared at a health care
rally outside of President Obama?s speech to the Veterans of Foreign
Wars in Phoenix, Arizona. "


Don...I like you a lot. Respect you deeply.

Blush... Aside from geography, hugs aren't out of the question. I
could like to pop some caps in the desert with you before I check out.
But...your midwestern views
on the 2nd Amendment need a fair amount of rework before they reflect
the views of the Founders.

Hoh, golly, ya got me on being midwestern for sure. On a
post-coldfront high blue sky day like today I see contrails way up
there that take a long time in transit. Meanwhile, I'm down here
wearing two flannel shirts, my knees are cold and the fish are zenned
out in their deep sanctuaries. Two quilts on the bed tonight. It's
freakin' August -- in Minnesota

I don't presume to reflect views of anyone else past or present. I
merely present an opinion. My (1st amendment) opinion is that the
damned fool who showed up with an assault rifle had clear intent to
intimidate since there was no need for defense, that many or most
citizens of today would find such behavior unacceptable, and that
there is no closed season on constitutional amendments.

Man carries assault rifle to Obama protest
Written By:Christine Muchiri/ cnn , Posted: Tue, Aug 18, 2009

A man toting an assault rifle was among a dozen protesters carrying
weapons while demonstrating outside President Barack Obama's speech to
veterans on Monday, but no laws were broken.

It was the second instance in recent days in which unconcealed weapons
have appeared near presidential events.

Protester, riffle obama function.jpgA man is shown legally carrying a
rifle at a protest against President Obama on Monday in Phoenix,
Arizona.

Video from the protest in Phoenix, Arizona, shows the man standing with
other protesters, with the rifle slung over his right shoulder.

Phoenix police said authorities monitored about a dozen people carrying
weapons while peacefully demonstrating.

"It was a group interested in exercising the right to bear arms," said
police spokesman Sgt. Andy Hill.

Arizona law has nothing in the books regulating assault rifles, and only
requires permits for carrying concealed weapons. So despite the man's
proximity to the president, there were no charges or arrests to be made.

Hill said officers explained the law to some people who were upset
about the presence of weapons at the protest.

"I come from another state where 'open carry' is legal, but no one does
it, so the police don't really know about it and they harass people,
arrest people falsely," the man, who wasn't identified, said in an
interview.

"I think that people need to get out and do it more so that they get
kind of conditioned to it."

Gun-toting protesters have demonstrated around the president before.

Last week, a man protesting outside Obama's town hall meeting in New
Hampshire had a gun strapped to his thigh.That state also doesn't
require a license for open carry.

U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan acknowledged the incidents in
New Hampshire and Arizona, but said he was not aware of any other recent
events where protesters attended with open weapons.He said there was no
indication that anyone had organized the incidents.

Asked whether the individuals carrying weapons jeopardized the safety of
the president, Donovan said, "Of course not."

The individuals would never have gotten in close proximity to the
president, regardless of any state laws on openly carrying weapons, he
said.

A venue is considered a federal site when the Secret Service is
protecting the president and weapons are not allowed on a federal site,
he added.

In both instances, the men carrying weapons were outside the venues
where Obama was speaking.

"We pay attention to this obviously ... to someone with a firearm when
they open carry even when they are within state law.We work with our law
enforcement counterparts to make sure laws and regulations in their
states are enforced." Donovan said."

""A man at a pro-health care reform rally...wore a semiautomatic assault
rifle on his shoulder and a pistol on his hip....there are questions
about whether this has racial overtones....white people showing up with
guns." Brewer failed to mention the man she described was black."


And yet again and again the Lefts agenda, lies and propaganda attempts
are shown to be exactly that....lies and propaganda.

And yet you think it should be stifled and not raised up in question in
a legal fashion?

Ayup...you are indeed from Minnesota, sad to say.

Shrug

Gunner






Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
.

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