Re: Life after blocked senders

No we still have access to much of the SPAM but it doesn't show up as extra
headers. I might also respectfully disagree with Ed on his post.

Spam, politics, and other off-topic chatter is close to making a once VERY
GOOD newsgroup worthless.

I've been a lurker, poster, and casual observer on this group for many
years. I first started in Usenet in the 1980's. At that time the web
wasn't yet ready for public consumption and all of the posting was done from
the dos command line. No pictures, no sound, and no SPAM. Users wouldn't
put up with it! I had my first access from a gateway at my local
University. I could get on and communicate with users a half a world away.
Even without all of the graphics and such available today, for me, it was
more useful. Group members took personal charge to insure that the limited
time that we had to access the system wasn't wasted.

Today, all that has changed. The internet is available to everyone.
EXCELLENT! But there should be a greater effort to try to insure that as
much as possible continues to have value.

THIS IS ON TOPIC! Because this once first class newsgroup is declining and
it deserves a public discussion about how we might improve it.

BTW: My only problem is that much of all the posting here has little to do
with its original purpose and turns out to be "noise" cluttering the net.
There are thousands of Usenet groups set up for this. But are only a few
setup for machining discussion and this used to be the BEST!

Ed I disagree with very little of what you write! I would just rather look
for it in another location. What attracts SPAM to groups is partly the spam
spiders that search for words, expressions, crossposting, and traffic. So
what happens, if this continues, is CHAOS! I've seen, over the years,
groups abandoned and started new because of this. I would rather not see
that with rec.crafts.metalworking.

Simply marking a post OT might make it useful to cull what your going to
read that day but it does nothing to slow the "spiders" and will eventually
make the group worthless. I've seen it too many times!

Al


"Ian Malcolm" <valid.address.in.signature@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ed Huntress wrote:

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"Ed Huntress" <huntres23@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


"Al" <ashurREMOVEandADD1@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Unfortunately my blocked senders list is up in the high hundreds but
the
newsgroup is stating to get more manageable.

I was worried that with such a high number of blocked senders it would
remove most of the good value from the group discussions. It hasn't!

It turns out that much of the wasted discussion was propagated by some
regular newsgroup users. They are now blocked but must of the good
machining and tool discussion still gets through.

When I download new messages almost everyday I still have to do a
slight
trim but it only takes a couple of minutes.

Happy New Year to all!

Al (a flaming liberal but I don't come here to share it)

<PLONK!>

[that will cut down on the visible OT posts by people wasting precious
space
telling us what they don't read]

d8-)

And if we are on your blocked list we can still torment you just in case
you
missed Ed's reply.

Guess ?


A question for the zen experts: If we all plonk each other but we all
keep posting anyway, will anybody know it?


Well if our respective USENET providers news spool administrators have an
IQ above room temperature *someone* will know, but for some of our
providers its a very big *IF*!


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